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Contents 1 Comment by Compay 2 Canonization? 3 Personal Life? 4 Audio File? 5 Strange dry view on Alexander Nevsky 6 Old Style Dates 7 Failed for Version 0.7

[edit] Comment by Compay

hundreds claimed by Russian chronicles

is a later time addition to the cronicles. The chronicles say: "В лето 6750 не бысть ничтоже", which means "in the year 6750 nothing happened", 6750 being 1242. I think the frase should be "claimed later by Russian sources" Compay 10:17, 28 November 2005 (UTC)

Why is Russia at all mentioned? There was no Russia back then. there was only scattered principalities that became Russia later. Plus, not all of these principalities were under mongolians. Most were, and they were scattered and not united, but there were some that were free from mongolian rule, for example the most powerful one back then, Novgorod (could you please give a source on Novgorod paying the tribute, sine it is a factually incorrect claim).

Come on. Stating there was "no Russia" in Alexander Nevsky's time is about like saying there was no such thing as Germany prior to 1871. There are a number of nations that fragmented for a time, even for centuries, only to reunite at a later date. China did, Germany did, Italy did, and so did Russia. In the case of Russia, this is obvious. The successor states of Kievan Rus' were led by branches of the same House of Rurik, and when Ivan The Terrible reunited all the territory, he declared himself "Tsar of all the Russias." He wouldn't have done that if those lands weren't viewed as all parts of one nation. Jsc1973 22:34, 12 August 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Canonization?

The article says 1547, but I found various sources mentioning different dates, amongst others 1267 and 1381. —Vildricianus 16:14, 16 May 2006 (UTC) 16:14, 16 May 2006 (UTC)

It would also be helpful if the article gave some reason why he was canonized. I assume that he must have done something besides be a great leader in order to become a saint? Cdixon 22:20, 29 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Personal Life?

Did he have a family? Children? This article gives us only the political take on the man.

He had at least two sons. One of them, Dmitry of Pereslavl, has a wikipedia article on him. Andrew II and Yaroslav III were Alexander's brothers. The rules of succession in the Russian states were rather bewildering.--Syd Henderson 04:58, 28 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Audio File?

Shouldn't the audio file be in a more user friendly format? I don't even know what an .ogg file is.

[edit] Strange dry view on Alexander Nevsky

There are tons of books written on Alexander Nevsky by famous Russian historians of the past. I wish somebody could add extracts from Karamzin (XVIII century)and Soloviev (XIX century)works who were using interesting sources. In this article we see old-fashioned Soviet-type view on Nevsky, while he was much more than that, he was a product of those barbaric times.

[edit] Old Style Dates

Throughout the article it is not mentioned that the dates listed are those of Old Style (Julian calendar). For instance, the battle against the Teutonians took place on 18th of April rather than on 5th of April (the latter being the Old style date) —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 217.151.131.39 (talk) 12:14, 18 April 2007 (UTC).

[edit] Failed for Version 0.7

I'd expected to be able to include this article on a major historical figure (I'm a chemist, not a historian, but I was familiar with his story). The article is fairly short, but often biographies are for this period. However, I see that there are virtually no references; the article does include quite a lot of material that could be considered conjecture (e.g., judging importance, influence or impact of events) when it occurs without external source material. That means I must reluctantly fail the article. If a few sources are added (and preferably some inline cites for the bolder statements), please renominate the article. Thanks, Walkerma 03:05, 12 June 2007 (UTC)