Template talk:Album

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[edit] Untitled comment

Odessey and Oracle really is the correct spelling. For proof see AMG for the cover art.

[edit] Needs to be smaller

Hi! I've just noticed how large this template is. While it is, of course, great to have an Albums WikiProject, and entirely appropriate to note that an article is part of a WikiProject on a Talk: page, I don't think it's a good idea to take up an entire screenful of each and every album talk page with a project-wide todo list -- if an editor is interested, they can click through. Article talk pages are really only for discussion directly related to the article in question; broader issues should be advertised elsewhere. Can we trim it down? — Matt 03:47, 15 Sep 2004 (UTC)

Doesn't particularly bother me but then I'm using a 19" monitor. I would say 95% of the album talk pages have nothing but the template at the moment. I'm neutral on having it trimmed down. RedWolf 04:16, Sep 15, 2004 (UTC)
Yeah. Certainly, only having a resolution of 800x600 on my laptop doesn't help. — Matt 04:58, 15 Sep 2004 (UTC)
I'm with making it smaller. Tuf-Kat 01:57, Sep 30, 2004 (UTC)
It's true that most album talk pages are pretty bare but for this template, but I still think it's way too big and contains more information than is necessary. If people feel like finding out what the current collaboration is, they'll go to the WikiProject page. I think the "things you can do" part should be trimmed. plattopustalk 17:31, May 23, 2005 (UTC)
I agree, a little smaller would make a big improvement. <>Who?¿? 15:43, 10 July 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Template placement

See Wikipedia:Template locations for discussion on template placement (article versus talk page). <>Who?¿? 15:43, 10 July 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Please

Could someone make this template look a bit nicer? ~~~~ 16:36, 10 July 2005 (UTC)

I gave it a shot. -- Netoholic @ 15:26, 11 July 2005 (UTC)
I've removed some more unnecessary stuff. This is an infobox for editors, they will know about Portal Music anyway. The links to the Current collaborations et. al. are pretty obvious, they don't need another sentence explaining them. --FlorianB 16:25, 12 July 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Pump Up the Valuum

I added the infobox here :) Redwolf24 03:34, 14 July 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Despierta Los Niños

I gave that album an infobox, so it doesn't need it anymore. Junkyard prince 01:33, 30 July 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Conversion

Could we add a section on this template for conversion? For instance At The Chelsea Nightclub doesn't use the album box template... the basic style but it's not correct... Lola versus Powerman and the Moneygoround, Part One is better but it doesn't use the template (in fact, should that be converted since it is exact same style, or should it be left code?) gren グレン 06:03, 14 August 2005 (UTC)

I'd support putting another section for conversion on the template as long as there are enough articles with boxes that do not follow the template style, since we may also want to make a list for them similar to Wikipedia:Wikiproject Albums/Needs infobox|Needs infobox (maybe Wikipedia:Wikiproject Albums/Needs infobox conversion?). As for articles that have the infobox style but are not templates, I don't see any harm in leaving them as raw code, unless the code is confusing. Jaxl | talk 19:40, 15 August 2005 (UTC)
Adding an info box takes time... converting doesn't really... so I'd probably conver rather than just adding to a list... music isn't my main task here... but, I just wanted to suggest it. 19:57, 15 August 2005 (UTC)
Ah, I see. Well, I still think it's a good suggestion, so if you want to add a section for conversion, then I'm all for it. Jaxl | talk 20:14, 15 August 2005 (UTC)
I started to add that section until I noticed Wikipedia:Wikiproject Albums/Incomplete infobox which is basically the same thing. .. except, it's harder to manage I think with tables and all. I don't think I should add the conversion section since it's more or less incompleteness... gren グレン 10:09, 22 August 2005 (UTC)

[edit] The Longest Line

I have granted it an infobox. And all was happy and stuff. -- CABHAN TALK CONTRIBS 20:10, 16 October 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Are You Experienced (album)

Sort of converted. Didn't find any lists to remove it from, though. -- Parasti 00:05, 5 January 2006 (UTC)

[edit] links / slight expansion

I feel that at a minimum this template needs links to the tasks which were formerly listed here. Code is included.

This article is part of Wikipedia:WikiProject Albums, an attempt at building a useful musical resource on recordings from a variety of genres. If you would like to participate, you can choose to edit the article attached to this page (see Wikipedia:Contributing FAQ for more information).
You can help: Current collaboration Needs article Needs infobox Needs infobox conversion

Thanks Dan, the CowMan 23:59, 16 March 2006 (UTC)

Other WikiProject templates generally don't have links like those. Best to keep it simple, and allow users to find those links when they go to the WikiProject. Angr (talk • contribs) 12:54, 26 March 2006 (UTC)
I don't like it either, not least because the scope of the project is very large and most people who edit album articles aren't members of the WikiProject. That said, I think you ought to consider implementing the new bot-assisted Wikipedia 1.0 assessments system, about which I've posted at Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Albums#Wikipedia_1.0_Assessments. --kingboyk 21:25, 11 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Wikipedia 1.0 Assessments

I've added article assessment code to this template (as discussed at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Albums). The only feature I've not implemented at this time is displaying importance, since some other large Projects have decided not to assess for importance or to not display it. The template will now display a grading, add talk pages to subcategories of Category:Album articles by quality and Category:Album articles by importance, transclude /Comments files and add to Category:Album articles with comments.

In addition to those category trees, I've created Wikipedia:WikiProject Albums/Assessment.

WP1.0 Albums: Index · Statistics · Log. --kingboyk 21:35, 17 August 2006 (UTC)

I'd like to add that I'm quite willing to add the code for displaying importance, but I thought I'd wait and see how assessment goes and how editors feel about it. Comments welcome! --kingboyk 23:33, 22 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Proposed rewording

This article is within the scope of WikiProject Albums, an attempt at building a useful resource on music recordings from a variety of genres. If you would like to participate, visit the project page, where you can join the project and/or contribute to the discussion.

Based on the WikiProject Biography template. Punctured Bicycle 23:18, 22 August 2006 (UTC)

I'd support that change. Being able to edit an article is kinda obvious, that's wiki! --kingboyk 23:32, 22 August 2006 (UTC)
Aha... I was sure this had been discussed somewhere!
OK, anyway: I've removed "musical". It now says "an attempt at building a useful resource on recordings from a variety of genres." Is that OK with everyone or is the scope meant to be music albums only?
I'll do the other change now. --kingboyk 12:33, 25 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Proposed "nested" parameter

Per a comment on the WikiProject's page, I'd like to alter this template by adding the "nested" parameter and allowing the template to be used in the {{WikiProjectBannerShell}} format. Since it's protected, how do I go about getting permission to edit it? The altered code can be seen at Template:WikiProjectBannerShell/Example Album and an example can be seen on Template_talk:WikiProjectBannerShell/Example Album. -- SatyrTN (talk | contribs) 16:20, 2 March 2007 (UTC)

Done. Let me know any problems. Agathoclea 17:47, 2 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Different links in template for unassessed articles

{{Editprotected}}

Please look at this edit (for an unassessed article) and note that the link "assessment scale" points here, whereas this link (for an assessed article) points here. Is this intended? --Bensin 12:40, 17 March 2007 (UTC)

I don't think so. Could somebody fix this? This will do. Jogers (talk) 12:52, 17 March 2007 (UTC)

Y Done —Quarl (talk) 2007-03-17 13:42Z

[edit] Class parameters

I noticed that the list and cat (short for category) parameters are not present. These parameters should be included since lists and categories will never be complete and consequently cannot be assessed with the usual stub, start, etc. ratings. Many other WikiProject templates include this parameter.--NPswimdude500 07:50, 1 April 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Add WikiProject banners category

{{editprotected}} Currently there are three categories that are on the doc page and not on the banner itself. To move these to the correct place, please change the last line of the template from:

</noinclude><includeonly>[[Category:WikiProject Albums articles|{{ARTICLEPAGENAME}}]]</includeonly>

to:

</noinclude><includeonly>[[Category:WikiProject Albums articles|{{ARTICLEPAGENAME}}]] </includeonly><noinclude> [[Category:WikiProject banners|Albums]] [[Category:WikiProject Albums]] [[Category:Templates using ParserFunctions|Albums]]</noinclude>

Thanks! -- SatyrTN (talk | contribs) 20:04, 31 May 2007 (UTC)

Done. Cheers. --MZMcBride 21:56, 31 May 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Why is this protected?

I can't find any explanation for why this is protected. Protected articles should be prominently noted as such and a reason (with links to the edits that provoked the protection) should be given. Can someone fix this? Thanks. Gronky 19:52, 25 June 2007 (UTC)

21:23, 9 January 2007 Gurch (Talk | contribs | block) m (Protected Template:Album: high-risk, approx. 39928 transclusions [edit=sysop:move=sysop]) Agathoclea 21:52, 25 June 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Req: Remove duplicate categories

{{editprotected}}

Please remove the code <noinclude>[[Category:WikiProject banners|Album]] [[Category:WikiProject Albums]] [[Category:Templates using ParserFunctions|Album]]</noinclude> from the bottom of the template. These categories are already set at Template:Album/doc, but one category has now been changed to a subcategory. --PEJL 16:15, 5 November 2007 (UTC)

Please also change "Theeee" to "The". (Does no one read this text?) --PEJL 16:17, 5 November 2007 (UTC)
Done. Jogers (talk) 17:49, 5 November 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Problem with Cat-Class, etc.

{{editprotected}} The switch

{{#switch:{{{class}}}
|fa|Fa|FA=[[Category:FA-Class Album articles|{{PAGENAME}}]]
|a|A=[[Category:A-Class Album articles|{{PAGENAME}}]]
|ga|Ga|GA=[[Category:GA-Class Album articles|{{PAGENAME}}]]
|b|B=[[Category:B-Class Album articles|{{PAGENAME}}]]
|start|Start=[[Category:Start-Class Album articles|{{PAGENAME}}]]
|stub|Stub=[[Category:Stub-Class Album articles|{{PAGENAME}}]]
|NA|na|Na=[[Category:Non-article Album pages|{{PAGENAME}}]]
|#default=[[Category:Unassessed Album articles|{{PAGENAME}}]]

does not include a switch for Cat-Class, Dab-Class, Template-Class, List-Class, and NA-Class album articles. This sends them to the #default option, erroneously placing these articles in the "Unassessed Album articles" category. —Werson (talk) 06:08, 27 December 2007 (UTC)


To be clear, it sounds like you're requesting something along these lines?

{{#switch:{{{class}}}
|fa|Fa|FA=[[Category:FA-Class Album articles|{{PAGENAME}}]]
|a|A=[[Category:A-Class Album articles|{{PAGENAME}}]]
|ga|Ga|GA=[[Category:GA-Class Album articles|{{PAGENAME}}]]
|b|B=[[Category:B-Class Album articles|{{PAGENAME}}]]
|start|Start=[[Category:Start-Class Album articles|{{PAGENAME}}]]
|stub|Stub=[[Category:Stub-Class Album articles|{{PAGENAME}}]]
|NA|na|Na=[[Category:Non-article Album pages|{{PAGENAME}}]]
|cat|Cat=[[Category:Category-Class Album articles|{{PAGENAME}}]]
|dab|Dab=[[Category:Disambiguation-Class Album articles|{{PAGENAME}}]]
|list|List=[[Category:List-Class Album articles|{{PAGENAME}}]]
|#default=[[Category:Unassessed Album articles|{{PAGENAME}}]]

...tinker as you like, I may not have the categories right, or I may have misunderstood the request. – Luna Santin (talk) 12:02, 27 December 2007 (UTC)

Exactly. —Werson (talk) 23:29, 27 December 2007 (UTC)

Done. — Carl (CBM · talk) 22:27, 28 December 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Importance categories

I don't know why but the template seems to be eliminating the articles from any of the importance categories. For example, reviewing the articles in the old Category:Mid-importance album articles template, it doesn't move them to Category:Mid-importance Album articles like they should. In fact, if you conduct a null edit on any article in the new category (minus the ones nested inside other templates), the article is removed from the importance category completely. Is there a reason? -- Ricky81682 (talk) 09:36, 24 April 2008 (UTC)

Ok, I don't really know what I'm doing so before I mess up 30k articles, could someone change

|IMPORTANCE_SCALE =

to

|IMPORTANCE_SCALE = yes

I have a test version at User:Ricky81682/sandbox2 and it seems to get the importance categories done correctly. Also, I see that in the past, the importance categories were hidden but it seems dumb now that the Beatles and other templates are creating them as well. -- Ricky81682 (talk) 09:44, 24 April 2008 (UTC)

For a specific example of the problem, Talk:Chinese Democracy cannot be found in Category:High-importance Album articles where it belongs. -- Ricky81682 (talk) 09:48, 24 April 2008 (UTC)
I don't know why this was removed. It was never discussed neither was a conseous about this. I've been asking to the user who did it and he keeps ignoring. Tasc0 It's a zero! 04:26, 25 April 2008 (UTC)
Well, this user asked him to. Do you know why he did? -- Ricky81682 (talk) 05:28, 25 April 2008 (UTC)
No. You can read my question here. He's an idiot. Tasc0 It's a zero! 00:10, 26 April 2008 (UTC)
Either way. I think it's going to take a while until the categories are properly populated again. The last statistics showed 66k with unknown importance but there are only 17k now. It's going to take some time until those 40k article appear again. 38k still have to migrate from Category:Unknown-importance album articles over to the one with "A"lbum but I don't know how much overlap that is. Man, what happens when you change a template linked on 60k or so articles. -- Ricky81682 (talk) 04:34, 26 April 2008 (UTC)
But I agree with the user that explained why in your talk page, it's only that I think this should be discussed before removing it.
You think we should leave it or remove it? Tasc0 It's a zero! 03:51, 27 April 2008 (UTC)
As I explained, first, there is no discussion at Template talk:Album or at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Albums about removing the importance parameter. Second, the project template specifically mentions importance as a field, along with its assessment scale. Third, the importance category itself was created in August 2006 so someone was thinking about it a while ago. Fourth, there are thousands of articles that have been tagged with the importance field, so it isn't an afterthought. If someone wants it removed, it should be discussed and removed from both the project template from the assessment scale. -- Ricky81682 (talk) 07:53, 27 April 2008 (UTC)
<trout-slaps self/> What have I been doing? I am really, really sorry - I seem to have managed to miss every one of your posts to my talk page, bright yellow banner and all. Please accept my appologies. Is there anything I can do to resolve the issue, or have you managed to clear up my mess without me? Again, I am really sorry for being so unresponsive. Happy‑melon 17:13, 27 April 2008 (UTC)
So the categories have to be re-created or they already are? Tasc0 It's a zero! 13:40, 28 April 2008 (UTC)
There is no problem with the categories. What has to happen is that the job queue will eventually update the articles with the updated version of the template (or someone has to do a null edit) and the articles will reappear in the categories. Until then, the categories are going to be missing a number of articles. It will just take some time (probably after those 30k articles migrate over first). -- Ricky81682 (talk) 00:56, 29 April 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Categorization

Hello,

this template is not a member of Category:WikiProject banners; is this intended? --B. Wolterding (talk) 17:51, 27 April 2008 (UTC)

Yes, because it's a member of Category:WikiProject banners with quality assessment instead, which is a subcategory of CAT:WPB. Happy‑melon 18:03, 27 April 2008 (UTC)