Talk:Albert Johnson (criminal)
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I was watching an interview of Sgt H.F. Hersey on the Biography Channel. He was the person wounded by Albert Johnson during his last battle.
He was interviewed at age 98.
He stated that Albert Johnson was carrying multiple firearms including a sawed-off shotgun and his total gear weighed close to 150lbs! This makes the story of his flight even more amazing.
I don't think the tone of this article is unbiased. The term "petty criminal" appears to me to be a value judgement.
I guess the author assumes that he must have been a "petty criminal" otherwise the all mise mounties in their nascent Canadian police state wouldn't have been after him in the first place.
The fact remains, however, that he was never any evidence of a crime being committed up utill he fired on the mounties.
- Well as the author of the article in its original form, I simply have to say that no value judgement was implied. However the claim that there was never any evidence of a crime being committed up utill he fired on the mounties is obviously incorrect as Johnson was being investigated for tripping the traps. That IS a petty crime, and why I called him that.
- If anyone is showing a bias it's the author of the comments above. Statements like "I guess the author assumes" and "nascent Canadian police state" show this fairly painfully. Luckily he didn't actually change the article.
- Maury 22:57, 19 December 2005 (UTC)
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[edit] Rat River or Rat Creek?
Hi, I thought Albert Johnson's title was the Mad Trapper of Rat Creek not Rat River. Any objections to that being changed? Kimbalee1 19:18, 10 August 2006 (UTC)
- I'm quite sure it is Rat Creek, I went to school in the area that used to be called that... they have a community paper called "Rat Creek Press"...but someone has changed it back to Rat River... so I guess that is what this article will call it.-Kimbalee1 14:16, 17 September 2006
[edit] Search Warrant
The author makes the allegation twice that the search warrant for Johnson's cabin was illegal. Is there any evidence for this and if so what is it? It sounds like an opinion and not a fact. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by--64.233.226.119 19:15, 11 March 2007 (UTC) 64.233.226.119 (talk) 19:10, 11 March 2007 (UTC).
[edit] Assessment
I have assessed this as Start Class, as it contains more detail and organization than would be expected of a Stub, and of low importance as I do not feel that many people outside of Canada would be familiar with the subject of this article. Cheers, CP 15:53, 26 October 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Redirect games
See: Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard for the mess created by User:The-G-Unit-Boss. Handicapper (talk) 14:27, 22 November 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Other information
I have also heard that Albert Johnson was not actually killed at the final battle, but had cornered one of the 9 police and shot the man in the face, and then when the police heard the gunshot, they found the body of the dead officer, but thinking it was albert johnson, and he had gotten away.
A couple years later a student of a teacher of mine then looked in the phonebook after a story for an "Albert Johnson" living in Naramata, British Columbia, canada. He asked the old man during the call if he had ever been in those mountains (whatever the range/valley was called, he used the proper words but I don't remember) and the man said "How do you know?"... this doesn't matter so much though, his name is not listed anymore in Naramata, he probabled died as this was in 1995.
Also, he said they found a jar of golden teeth in albert johnson's backpack he carried with him, do we havve any sources on this? 24.129.237.34 (talk) 02:42, 2 May 2008 (UTC)
- Hello 24 - What you are relating sounds quite a bit like the plot (ending) of the early 80s Charles Bronson movie Death Hunt,
- which includes the fictionalized point about the man with the face shot off being mis-identified as an escaping Johnson. But it's a :movie - the gold teeth element is taken from an account of another "mad trapper" and Johnson's fate is well-established. I believe you :information than he/we had later, it is still a fine read - it also deals with the gold teeth rumor. Most importantly, however, it :includes a number of full face photos of Johnson, shot - NOT in the face - several times on the frozen Rat River. The pictures make :the body clearly identifiable as the man known as Johnson, which you can clearly see in the included photos of AJ when alive and substantiated as the same man by highly technical facial imaging analysis. The ongoing autopsy on the remains in Aklavik started last summer should also help to establish identity. As for the AJ in Naramata who had been in the Richardson Mountains - remember that thousands of people every year are still convinced that they've seen Elvis alive, too. Sensei48 (talk) 06:02, 2 May 2008 (UTC)
