Talk:Albanian mafia
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[edit] Heroin Trade
This info has no official link to the Interpol data, only to an article on Kosovo.net:
According to Interpol data, in 1999 just on drug smuggling, the Albanian mafia earned 38 billion dollars. Two years later in 2001, the profit was 50 billion dollars, and in 2002 the profit was even 70 billion dollars.
http://www.kosovo.net/news/archive/ticker/2004/December_16/39.html
Therefore I have deleted this since it does not provide a direct source to the Interpol data.
POV: Many names, little reliable sources. I think the whole article should be checked by someone neutral --Noah30 (talk) 14:23, 22 April 2008 (UTC)
- The Interpol source is probably this one [1], and states "In 1998, the U.S. State Department listed the KLA as a terrorist organization, indicating that it was financing its operations with money from the international heroin trade and loans from Islamic countries and individuals, among them allegedly Usama bin Laden". Looking at the KLA article, is seems that KLA was taken down from that list on February 1998, but it looks certain that it was listed there, I just don't know for how long. --Enric Naval (talk) 15:34, 31 May 2008 (UTC)
[edit] Truth
You can go to numerous websites and find the exact same quotes from different people and websites. Ill try to provide a interpol statistic for it. but take that neutrility thing off. you took the 70 billion dollar thing off and i wont put it back up until i find the interpol source. unless you can find anything else wrong with this article dont NPOV it. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Money00912 (talk • contribs) 22:16, 22 April 2008 (UTC)
[]"James Jatras is paid $100,000 a month from Serbs to spread, let's say, the Serb POV. He coincidentally was Larry Vraig's adviser when these Senate reports were written [2]. He also testified for Slobodan Milosevic.
Jatras, between trips to Moscow and Brussels, said the foreign offices gave the group a “better platform” for international clients. Business opportunities not only include representing foreign governments before the U.S. Congress, but also facilitating relationships between foreign businesses and the federal government, and between domestic companies and foreign governments.
The lobbyists expect to bring around 12 clients with them to Squire Sanders Public Advocacy, the group’s official name. These include the Indian government, the Rodina political party in Russia, and the Serbian National Council of Kosovo and Metohija.
Some pay hefty fees. The Serbian group, for example, pays $100,000 a month, a portion of which goes to another public-relations firm." http://thehill.com/business--lobby/3-venable-lobbyists-leave-to-start-new-firm-2007-01-31.html{/quote} Keep it Fake (talk) 01:50, 28 April 2008 (UTC)
[edit] Misrepresenting, misusing sources, and spewing anti-Albanian propaganda
This article is pure Serbian propaganda disguised as objective information on a subject that is scattered, arcane,controversial, and undefined. Sources, except two articles, on the Independent are cherry-picked on criminal activities as conducted by some obscure groups or number of individuals that are loosely connected to each other with random acts of violence or criminality. Such a case can be made about many groups and nationalities as diverse as Bulgarian gangs, Serbian thugs left-over from wars, Russian underground mobs, or the mighty Italian Mafia. To try and magnify, misrepresent, blow out of proportion, and hyperbolize about such groups on a national scale with the purpose of tarnishing the image of a country is nothing more than pure, unconstructed, and cheap propaganda that does not merit to be published in here. Add to that that this article directly misrepresents information to suit author's bias.
For example, the author or authors use an FBI source and claim that the article speaks about how Albanians were active in criminal activities in New York city since the 1980s. "In the United States, Albanian gangs started to be active in the mid-80s, mostly participating in low-level crimes such as burglaries and robberies. Later, they would become affiliated with Cosa Nostra crime families before eventually growing strong enough to operate their own organizations..."
If the reader want to see why this is a lie, please go to footnote # 6, click on the FBI link and read for yourself on what the article says. The FBI talks about Balkan Mafia, not Albanian mafia per se. "Balkan criminal organizations have been active in the U.S. since the mid-1980s. At first, these organizations were involved in low-level crimes, including bank robberies, ATM burglaries, and home invasions... FBI refers to Balkans Mafia and that may include groups and criminals as diverse as Albanians, Serbs, Bosnians, Croats, Macedonians, Bulgarians, Hungarians, etc.
In addition, author(s) use a site called www.Serbianna.com in two of their sources. Since its inception, this website has been spewing anti-Albanian propaganda 24/7. Please remove the article and restraint from attempting to use isolated groups of criminals, drug traffickers, and other underground activities to tarnish the image of the Albanian people. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Luftetari07 (talk • contribs) 20:39, 6 May 2008 (UTC)
[edit] big edit with lots of cruft
I just saw this huge edit adding a mix of encyclopedic details from reliable sources and irrelevant information about some criminal activities. It got reverted by a bot. We don't need to list every albanian criminal that ever got caught by the police, but there was some general info about albanian mafia. Can anyone extract the useful information from it? --Enric Naval (talk) 23:25, 6 June 2008 (UTC)
