Talk:Alas, Babylon

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Contents 1 Is quoting an unpublished source OR? 2 "Racial segregation" 3 Plot introduction 4 Fair use rationale for Image:AlasBabylon.jpg

[edit] Is quoting an unpublished source OR?

I don't know whether including the "personal reminiscences" of a former civil defence official can be used unless it has been published. I believe WP:NOR prohibits this sort of thing. Thoughts? 23skidoo 01:47, 4 October 2006 (UTC)

I would suggest references published in a fix form a cited according to an accepted and verifiable standard. Newsandrumor 21:50, 18 October 2006 (UTC)

True, but I was there when he said it. GABaker 23:29 18 Oct 2006

It is OR. However, it is also in violation of WP:V, since it cannot be independently verified. Have removed this content. Yaf 02:52, 19 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] "Racial segregation"

All that is shown in the book itself is that they disregard some segregation signs in a park for economic convenience...is that enough for the statement at hand to be true?24.73.17.162 05:05, 28 December 2006 (UTC)

Randy disregarded the henrys race and made them a part of the community. He also allowed Caleb to be part of the school while noting that only 2/3 of the country did not segregate the schools. Another example is how he did not segregate the militia. So either you need to go read the book or get off the drugs. XD --Aegisxgundam 00:02, 1 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Plot introduction

It is most correct to say that "Fort Repose" is based upon a somewhat hybrid of Mandarin, FL; Tangerine; "Greater Mount Dora" including Pistolville and certain African-American areas which had become de facto segregated after the 1920's. Frank himself would only state that Fort Repose was somewhere within 100 miles of Orlando and based upon Mandarin. However, no other place name of "Pistolville" has been identified in FL other than that adjoining Mt. Dora. It will also be noted that the Bragg house was outside the town proper. The existing references are sufficient to support this conclusion. It should be said that virtually no published bio of Frank (including his publisher's) makes any mention of his having lived in Tangerine. Ms. Owen's book reflects the remembrances of town resident's acquainted with Frank, who was no stranger to the local newspaper either. It seems that to maintain the intrique regarding Fort Repose, he desired to obscure the fact that he lived within perhaps walking distance of Pistolville. Newsandrumor 18:59, 31 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Fair use rationale for Image:AlasBabylon.jpg

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BetacommandBot (talk) 17:45, 13 February 2008 (UTC)