Talk:Al-Shabaab (Somalia)
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[edit] The previous name..
..had no sources at all. The only google result was this wikipedia article. --TheFEARgod (Ч) 16:59, 16 January 2008 (UTC)
[edit] Grassroots? Don't think so.
This is not a "grassroots" movement in the typical sense of a community organization passing petitions to get a new park authorized by the city council. Let's not use euphemisms when there are mortar attacks in Mogadishu leaving dozens dead or wounded, alright? --Petercorless 10:34, 22 February 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Assumptions
Also as this page evolves, be careful not to make too many assumptions that the insurgency attackers are always Islamist. A Somali in Mogadishu does not have to be an Islamist supporter to be hostile to the Ethiopian presence. And there are one or two clan warlords and their supporters not averse to promoting instability in the city. Maghreb (talk · contribs) 16:24, 22 February 2007
- That is 100% correct. There are many different reasons for the violence in Somalia, from individual warlords pursuing their own agendas, to banditry on the part of various individuals, including, allegedly, members of the military. The Islamists are a factor in amongst that, and should not be discounted, but not all violence is due to Islamists. It is very similar to the present situation in Iraq, where Al Qaeda is held up as the cause celebre for the violence, but is only one of the many factors involved in the sectarian and ethnic violence. Even so, I would not call the PRM nor Al Qaeda in Iraq "grassroots" movements. They don't seem to be doing door-to-door solicitation, phone banking, house parties, or gathering signatures on petitions. Underground movements are more appropriate. --Petercorless 21:06, 22 February 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Removed sentence
Moved the following sentence until someone can find a source:
Members earned a salary of $70 a month, paid for by their leader, Aden Hashi Farah "Eyrow" (or Ayro).
Some apparent sources out there seem to have been taken directly from the wikipedia article itself so please confirm the validity —Preceding unsigned comment added by 82.2.125.253 (talk) 19:55, 1 May 2008 (UTC)
[edit] Incorrect information
The Current leader of the Harakah Al-Mujahideen Al-Shabaab is Sheikh Mukhtar Abu Zubeyr, and, as far as I know, has always been him. Aden Hashi Ayro (Abu Muhsin Al-Ansari), was a founding member and high-ranking commander, but NOT the leader of the group, and Sheikh Mukhtar Robow is not the leader now either. He is the spokesman and Amir of the Bay-Bakool regions in central Somalia. I think that this should be changed. The Al-Shabaab statement released after Ayro's death attests to all of this, and there was a speech recently released by Mukhtar Abu Zubeyr which labels him 'Leader of the Organization'.
Sa'ad June 7 2008
