Talk:Al-Kabri massacre

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[edit] disputed

again, just quoting benny morris, who himself retracted many of his claims in recent years, is not enough and it's clear POV. It could all be fantasy as far as we know. Amoruso

Reverted. Please don't slap tags on multiple pages the way you just did. Instead, you should bring arguments specific to the article and the cites to back it up. See WP:V, WP:RS, WP:NPOV. Your changes turns up on the NPOV backlog and other backlogs -- Steve Hart 01:02, 6 August 2006 (UTC)

if the only source of the article is the notorious discredited benny morris, then it should atleast say : "benny morris claims....." and not list it as fact. If there are no objections, this will be changed. Amoruso 10:21, 12 August 2006 (UTC)

The Arbitration Committee has ruled on previous attempts to delete references to Morris' work. --Ian Pitchford 10:35, 12 August 2006 (UTC)

what's the relation between what you brought and between what I said. I'm not asking to delete Morris' discredited work. But it should be noted that he is the only one saying it. There's a big difference. Amoruso 10:49, 12 August 2006 (UTC)

No, you're asking for your opinion to be put above that of a published academic who cites his sources. --Ian Pitchford 10:53, 12 August 2006 (UTC)

No. I'm asking for it to be clear that the article is based only on Morris' opinion and not on more sources. Amoruso 11:06, 12 August 2006 (UTC)

Wrong, it is not based on Morris's opinion. It is based on Morris's interpretation of primary sources, mostly official Israeli archives that he meticulously gives references to and often cites verbatim. His interpretation may be wrong, but then other historians will come along and dispute his interpretation. At that time it will be fine to quote them. --Zero^talk 13:26, 12 August 2006 (UTC)

regardless, this source doesn't claim that more than 10 people died, therefore not a massacre and should be removed from the list of massacres. Amoruso 13:28, 15 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] NPOV

Maybe with a context this article may sound more neutral ? On May 20, during Ben Ami Operation I think the Israelis had some priorities of hurry given they excepted the entry of Libanese troups along the coast, which of course Libanese never did. Alithien 01:40, 31 January 2007 (UTC)