Talk:Al-Hajjaj ibn Yusuf

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[edit] Relation to afghanistan?

I am sorry but why this article is related to Afghanistan? hajjaj did not belong to Afghanistan, the main article doesn't even mention Afghanistan. Surely this is a mistake. Kindly rectify it ASAP. Other wise it is ridiculous for wikipedia.org. 202.142.190.245 (talk) 12:59, 18 April 2008 (UTC)


[edit] Biography assessment rating comment

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It is interesting that even Sunni Scholars have shown disdain for al-Hajjaj

Ibn Hajar al-Asqalani mentions the following Taabi'in that declared him a kaafir (unbeliever):

سعيد بن جبير والنخعي ومجاهد وعاصم بن أبي النجود والشعبي وغيرهم

He also mentions that Taawoos said, "I am shocked (or amazed) at the one who calls him a mumin (believer)."

Ibn Abi Dunyaa reports this with a Saheeh chain up to Al-Miswar ibn Makhramah:

وقال بن أبي الدنيا حدثني أحمد بن جميل ثنا عبد الله بن المبارك أنا عبد الرحمن بن عبد الله بن دينار عن زيد بن أسلم قال أغمي على المسور بن مخرمة ثم أفاق فقال أشهد أن لا إله إلا الله وأن محمدا رسول الله أحب إلي من الدنيا وما فيها عبد الرحمن بن عوف في الرفيق الأعلى مع الذين أنعم الله عليهم من النبيين والصديقين والشهداء والصالحين وحسن أولئك رفيقا وعبد الملك والحجاج يجران أمعاءهما في النار


He basically is declaring his station in Hell.

Ibn Hajr declared this narration saheeh in his entry in Tahthib At-Tahthib. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 99.243.76.145 (talk) 19:49, 13 December 2007 (UTC)


Arabic script added.

"His given name is Kulaib, but he changed it (Before being appointed as governor) to Al-Hajjaj which means in Arabic The Bone Crusher."

Doesn't hajjaj mean something like 'pilgrim'? Isn't it from the same root as hajj, hajji, and muhajir? In any case, I seriously doubt it means "the Bone Crusher". —Charles P. (Mirv) 17:39, 23 September 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Shi'a view

It's nice to have a Shi'a perspective on the legacy of al-Hajjaj, but isn't an inordinate amount of space dedicated to quoting a book with more of a polemical than scholarly purpose?

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[edit] Article needs to be edited

Someone please be kind enough to review this article and its awful composition. Also, why does there need to be a shia view of this guy? Every other middle east article seems to have a 'shia view' on it. Let the facts stand for themselves and mention different perspectives without giving them their own labels like so-and-so's views. I've never seen an encyclopedia approach an article like that. It's one thing to describe how different parts of the world perceived a figure/event but to list every minority groups' take on it is rather trivial. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.80.230.168 (talk) 07:02, 9 March 2008 (UTC)