Talk:Akzidenz-Grotesk

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Information used was from the book The Elements of Typographic Style by Robert Bringhurst, The Complete Manual of Typography by James Fellici and Berthold Fonts

Contents 1 Source of name? 2 Movie? 3 Relationship to Transport 4 Helvetica Genesis

[edit] Source of name?

Just wondering why it's called Accidents Grotesque? --24.249.108.133 19:07, 22 February 2007 (UTC)

It is Akzidenz, not Accidents, though Accidenz is found in earlier versions. It means a jobbing" sans-serif. Job printing includes the less glamorous stuff: forms, tickets, cards. THre is not a direct exact german to English translation. This is a nice link if you are still curious: http://typophile.com/node/17643 CApitol3 19:44, 22 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Movie?

What is this "Akzidenz Grotesk" movie that the ticket shown is for? I can find no info on the web. Presumably it isn't just the youtube short, is it? Jonathan Badger

The ticket belongs here, if anywhere. It is a parody of the Helvetica movie. CApitol3 20:48, 10 May 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Relationship to Transport

Chris Marshall states definitely that Transport is a "modification" of this font - [1] . Is he a sufficiently reliable source for us to put this in the article? Tevildo 23:44, 3 November 2007 (UTC)

• Chris has withdrawn the claim. Tevildo (talk) 08:33, 29 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Helvetica Genesis

I think it is one line to long, I know it is picky but Helvetica has its own page. We should delete "Miedinger sought to refine the typeface making it more even and unified". It's irrelevant.

Just a thought. Day Barnes (talk) 03:22, 8 May 2008 (UTC)

Akzidenz Grotesk is a progenitor of Helvetica, a strong relationship exists between the subject of this article and the typeface Helvetica. We have room for this line, and quite a few more if pertinent. CApitol3 (talk) 19:33, 8 May 2008 (UTC)

Understood and the line before the sentence in question already states Helvetica's lineage. All i'm suggesting is that the we don't need Miedinger's reasoning, which should, and already is covered on the Helvetica entry. I'm certainly not going to take this any further, i don't like editing other people's entries. I just thought I had a valid point that Helvetica's inspiration is already stated. Job done, move on, we don't state Frutiger's or Baum's rational for Univers and Folio. Just because it is true and we have space isn't reason enough, it's whether it belongs. Examine your heart, i think you know i've made a wonderful and valid point, plus i don't like the way the sentence steals Akzidenz's thunder. Day Barnes (talk) 01:15, 9 May 2008 (UTC)