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Deputy Prime Minister of Where?

Of Chechnya. Wondering about how to put this into the sentence without cluttering it..
  • Any ideas what Zakayev is up to these days? Any chance of an update... I suspect that he's keeping a low profile. Look what happened to one of his former colleagues Zelimkhan Yanderbiyev
  • Ahmed is, of course, a Deputy Prime Minister in the Chechen government-in-exile, a dubious entity recognised by nobody...

On Friday 8th Dec 2006, Ahmed Zakayev attended the funeral of Litvinenko, the former KGB Officer who died of Polonium-210 poisoning in London some days before. Zakaeyev described Litvinenko as a "close associate". Litvinenko's funeral was held at the Regent's Park Mosque, since he had recently converted to Islam.Reiner Torheit 03:43, 8 December 2006 (UTC)

In the middle of Feb 2007 Russian government told mass media that, after ratification of some treaties, Russia will go to UN international court to bring an action against UK of covering a terrorist Zakayev.Alexandre Koriakine 15:36, 15 February 2007 (UTC)

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[edit] Dissident?

This is a minor question, but Irpen just reverted my categorization him as "Russian dissident" (Russian means country, not ethnicity, and I assume that Chechnya is a part of Russia). Irpen said: "You must be joking to keep a terrorist in the same cat as Starovoitova". The point is: he was not convicted as a terrorist or criminal. Quite the opposite, he was ganted a political asylum by UK court, just as Litvinenko, Bukovsky and some others. So, what is the difference between them?Biophys 16:38, 12 May 2007 (UTC)

  • Dissident = Terrorist? --Paukrus 07:10, 27 September 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Chechen terrorist?

One of users inserts a "Chechen terrorist" category here. Please provide your sources. Of course the story of his court proceedings in UK is worth describing in this article, but I do not have time right now.Biophys 23:34, 26 September 2007 (UTC)

  • Chechnya isn't territory of UK. --Paukrus 07:21, 27 September 2007 (UTC)
You must provide multiple reliable sources that say: "Zakayev is terrorist" per WP:source and especially WP:BLP. Furthermore, this should be a "majority view" to make such Category.Biophys 16:19, 27 September 2007 (UTC)
Oh, yes. [1] Is NATO notable organisation? --Paukrus 23:56, 27 September 2007 (UTC)
If NATO officially included him in the list of terrorists, you must be able to support this claim by a reference to an official NATO publication/site, or to at least one publication in a respectable English language source (naturally, such source would explain WHY all the sudden he has been declared a terrorist). I checked web site of NATO. It does NOT tell that he is a terrorist.Biophys 18:06, 29 September 2007 (UTC)
He's a terrorist. It's fact. I saw many English sources those claimed Zakaev is terrorist. If you support terrorists or have rusophobe sentiment's it's only your opinion. --Paukrus 23:56, 30 September 2007 (UTC)
Lenta.ru and rbc.ru are one of the most notable sources. It isn't yellow press. --Paukrus 23:57, 30 September 2007 (UTC)
So far, you did not provide any English language reference claiming him to be a terrorist. Russian reference in grani.ru looks very much like a hoax. It claims that NATO suddenly and without any reason classified him as a terrorist, which would be a significant news. But this info can not be found anywhere in Western press or at the web site of NATO. We both know that Russian news agencies often publish disinformation on people like Zakayev.Biophys 23:42, 1 October 2007 (UTC)
It's position of extremist mass-media. --Paukrus 07:10, 2 October 2007 (UTC)

[edit] He is a Terrorist!

--Paukrus 08:39, 1 October 2007 (UTC)

    • That particular BBC article doesn't state that he's a terrorist. Neither do the others. BBC only claims that Russia called for Mr Zakayev to be detained as a terrorist. At best this would be enough to include the page into the category "People accused by Russia of terrorism". Stop violating WP:BLP and edit-warring to prove a point. Colchicum 10:12, 1 October 2007 (UTC)
      • Like it may write USA claimed Ben Laden is terrorist. :) If Zakaev isn't terrorist then Ben Laden is not terrorist too. --Paukrus 10:23, 1 October 2007 (UTC)
        • Zakayev has been examined by a British court and there are plenty of notable opinions stressing that he is not a terrorist. Categorization cannot be based on controversies. You are welcome to create the category "People accused of terrorism by Russia", it would be perfectly appropriate here. The category "Chechen terrorists" isn't. Colchicum 10:28, 1 October 2007 (UTC)
          • Chechnya isn't part of UK. Then British court isn't notable for Russian territory and laws.--Paukrus 11:25, 1 October 2007 (UTC)
            • Russia's opinion is irrelevat to Wikipedia. Wikipedia isn't part of Russia. Colchicum 11:30, 1 October 2007 (UTC)
              • Yes. Wikipedia isn't part of UK or USA too. UK's/US' sources aren't more relevant then Russian. Zakaev is terrorist, it's fact. --Paukrus 23:23, 1 October 2007 (UTC)
                • As to this issue, UK/US sources are generally more impartial than Chechen/Russian sources. But as you have provided no reliable sources at all, there is nothing to discuss. Wikipedia:Categorization: Categories that are not self-evident, or are shown through reliable sources to be controversial, should not be included on the article Colchicum 14:07, 2 October 2007 (UTC)
                  • Akhmed Zakayev is a terrorist due to the fact that he is Prime Minister of The Chechen Republic of Ichkeria, which is an illegal terrorist government in exile. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Zhenyamos (talk • contribs) 01:33, 28 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] A photo needed

--84.234.60.154 (talk) 13:52, 6 April 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Birth date?

The info box and the introduction both say 1956 but the section Early life says 1959. I don't have much time now researching but the linked BBC article also states 1959. --MusiKk (talk) 21:47, 6 May 2008 (UTC)