Template talk:AIV
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[edit] Current Issues
- The template has major errors when displaying complex, fancy signatures. It is currently being worked on at the moment.
- Fixed by me, however, the fix requires the template to be substituted, which it should be anyway. Change: You no longer need to put the four tildes with your comment, signature will be added automatically (diff). --FastLizard4 (Talk•Index•Sign) 20:35, 29 March 2008 (UTC)
[edit] Revamp
It's an interesting idea, but as currently implemented it doesn't seem useful to me (no offense). If we're going for something like this, I'd highly recommend following long-standing examples like {{RFPP}} or {{CUU}}. Common elements for these include:
- Transcluded, saving text on the page while editing
- Short names are easier to remember and type; I've redirected both {{AIV}} and {{aiv}} here
- Signature omitted from template, in part for ease of transclusion, in part to allow for additional comments
- Switch statements allow a shorthand input to expand to a helpful message
Example mock-up at User:Luna Santin/sandbox/X1 (permalink). Feel free to tinker. Code looks like this:
{{#switch: {{lc:{{{1}}}}} |w|warn = [[Image:Pictogram voting wait.svg|20px]] [[Wikipedia:Template messages/User talk namespace|Warned]] user. |i|info = [[Image:Pictogram voting question.svg|20px]] More information needed. |q|ques = [[Image:Pictogram voting question.svg|20px]] Question: |a|ani = [[Image:Pictogram voting info.svg|20px]] Consider taking this report to [[WP:AN/I]]. |c|cont = [[Image:Pictogram voting delete.svg|20px]] Content dispute. Consider [[Wikipedia:Dispute resolution|dispute resolution]]. |{{{1|}}} }}
I was looking to add something to the effect of "Not ready for a block yet, will monitor," but couldn't figure a good name to call it by.
Beyond that, any comments, suggestions, or in particular any objections to replacing the current template with something akin to this code? In particular, we need a list of regularly repeated messages (I've realized something about shared IPs might be good, say). – Luna Santin (talk) 21:25, 29 March 2008 (UTC)
- Went ahead and made this happen, will update documentation in a moment. – Luna Santin (talk) 23:24, 29 March 2008 (UTC)
While I did quit monitoring WP:AIV some time ago 'cause of the attitute to biting that is widely diffused among the administrator who patrols it, I must say that this approach looks too bureaucratic. What's the problem with the current one? If it ain't b0rken... Snowolf How can I help? 04:42, 30 March 2008 (UTC)
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- I have to admit I'll probably keep typing out my responses; if some people want to use a template, though, I'd rather give them one that's up to the task. – Luna Santin (talk) 09:58, 30 March 2008 (UTC)
- Templates make people's trigger easier, I fear :( Snowolf How can I help? 15:57, 30 March 2008 (UTC)
- I have to admit I'll probably keep typing out my responses; if some people want to use a template, though, I'd rather give them one that's up to the task. – Luna Santin (talk) 09:58, 30 March 2008 (UTC)
- In regards to this one: Page protected {[AIV|p}}, maybe we should add "consider using WP:RFPP in future, or words to that effect. I like the current template. Additionally, the {{AIV|a}} template maybe should be lengthened to say "AIV is for obvious vandalism only, or words to that effect. Steve Crossin (talk to me) 05:51, 30 March 2008 (UTC)
[edit] Impact on AIV HElperbots
So, if something is tagged with a template that would indicate that the report is declined (Stale, for example), then do the AIV Helperbots know to remove such reports? I think it would be ideal for the bots to remove such reports after a given time (5 minutes?), which would both permit admins and the reporting user to see the result of the report, and would reduce the edit conflicts generated when someone attempts to remove such reports manually. Thoughts? UltraExactZZ Claims ~ Evidence 04:24, 31 March 2008 (UTC)
- Send this idea through to Krellis, who is the bot developer of this amazing bot, and he should be able to integrate it somewhere :) — E talk aussie 12:07, 4 April 2008 (UTC)
- Yeh that would be a good idea. but i think the problem would be people don't actually always say the same thing. I could say "half an hour" or "10 mins" or "15 minutes" Maybe if we set a set was e.g. in minutes to add these times in. Then add this to the template so that it automatically says minutes and then the bot will only have to look for the number in the template. ·Add§hore· Talk/Cont 08:05, 19 April 2008 (UTC)