Talk:Airframe (novel)
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Oh good grief! Is this a blurb from the dust-jacket or was Crichton's agent at that IP address? ToDo list for de-puffery. Autiger 03:41, 13 Jan 2005 (UTC)
- De-puffed... feel free to add.--J-Star 16:33, 2005 Jun 18 (UTC)
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[edit] Its Ok
The Story is OK. the theme is alright, and the suspence is great. I give this book a 8.5, from a scale of 1-10
[edit] McDonnell-Douglas
I read this and as the article describes, there was a strong link to deals and joint ventures with Chinese government. I read in the McDonnell-Douglas article that they were also trying a joint venture with the Chinese, one of the reasons for their eventual death. It would seem likely that the Chinese aspect was at least partially based on McDonnell-Douglas even if they were presented as a seperate company (and the N-22 incident was based on a MD-11 incident anyway). Any comments? Nil Einne 19:08, 5 December 2005 (UTC)
- Yes, I think it's possible that Crichton did base some aspects of the story around this incident, and the similarity is too uncanny to ignore. I think you could just be bold and add it in, but what would be even better is finding a book review that says the same thing, then we'll have a source and it won't be mere speculation.
- As for the MD-11 incident, if there's enough data available, by all means go ahead. It would probably be best to go to List_of_accidents_and_incidents_on_commercial_airliners_grouped_by_airline#China_Eastern_Airlines and add it there, since that's the airline which owned the MD-11. -- Saikiri~ 22:32, 5 December 2005 (UTC)
[edit] The MD-11 incident
The N-22 incident was based on an MD-11 incident. The MD-11 page doesn't mention any incidents. I guess it's fairly minor, compared to the Airframe version but is it worth a wiki page? Anyone ready to add one? Nil Einne 19:11, 5 December 2005 (UTC)
[edit] It was an MD-11, not DC-10-10
I don't know where the editor for the June 7 edit found that the real life accident would have been on an DC-10-10. The accompanying link on aviation-safety.net clearly identifies the plane as an MD-11 and searching the serial number on airliners.net shows nohting other than it being an MD-11(F).
/J
[edit] Aeroflot flight 593
The article says that the accident was modelled after a 1993 accident of MD-11. There was another accident in the same timeframe - Aeroflot Flight 593 crash in March of 1994, it may have been more closely related to the story in the book. --Itinerant1 20:03, 12 July 2006 (UTC)
- Seems like the book is a blend of these two accidents. I do think however that the 1993 accident is the main inspiration and that the Aeroflot crash is more coincidence. But that's just me guessing. :) --J-Star 08:17, 13 July 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Plot is not reported correctly
If the plot of a novel is described in a Wikipedia article, I think it should be done properly. I just read this book, and the following sentence in the description is simply wrong:
"Embarrassed by the pilot's gross negligence, the Chinese attempted to cover up the entire incident by hiding the entire flight crew."
The crew is not hidden, first of all. Some are in hospital in the US, but mostly they return to their Hong Kong base - nothing illegal about this, since no law requires them to stay in the US (the incident happened in international airspace, for one thing). And of course it's not the Chinese who do this, since the airline is based in HK, which was still British at the time of the story.
Gsandi 13:02, 15 July 2007 (UTC)
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BetacommandBot (talk) 04:48, 12 February 2008 (UTC)
[edit] Chang
I removed the character of John Chang because he never actually appears in the book, he is only mentioned. While he is important, he is really a minor character —Preceding unsigned comment added by Rndmthght (talk • contribs) 15:33, 6 March 2008 (UTC)
