Talk:Airbus A330

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Contents 1 Launch customer 2 A350 a variant? 3 Windows 4 A330 Freighter 5 Users 6 Images 7 Specifications 8 Airbus A330 vs A340 9 Maiden flight date

[edit] Launch customer

Well, I may not get this answered until someone stumbles upon it in a few months, but... who was the launch customer for the A330? Not sure if the article states it. Thanks -- SmthManly / ^ManlyTalk / ^{ManlyContribs} 19:01, 12 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] A350 a variant?

I certainly believed that the A350 Marks. I-IV were A330 derivatives, but the A350 XWB has a new fuselage, new engines and a new wing. What else do you need to be new to call it a new model? —Joseph/N328KF (Talk) 01:58, 10 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Windows

Does anyone know the number and dimension of the windows along the length of the aircraft?

[edit] A330 Freighter

The Boeing 777F is a much larger freighter than the A330-200F and should not be included as a "simmilar" aircraft. The max payload for the 777F is 229,000 pounds while the A332F has a max payload of 150,000 lbs. That corresponds to a difference of nearly 80,000 lbs of payload, while the 777F is only 20,000 lbs shy of the max payload for the 744F. The 777F and A332F are simply different categories of freighters. Ryanmac06 23:53, 11 April 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Users

Why Cathay Pacific Airways was not the biggest users of the A330s? It has 32 A330s. —Preceding unsigned comment added by David1993923 (talk • contribs) 06:49, 18 October 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Images

I notice we now have eight images of the -200 series, far to many. Most of them are or should be in commons. Wanted to be WP:BOLD and delete a few but thought I would ask opinions first. MilborneOne (talk) 18:23, 2 January 2008 (UTC)

I've been bold and removed two of mine that I no longer regard as acceptable quality (the TAP flying and the bmi queueing). We now have three A330-200 and 1 A330-200F drawing - Adrian Pingstone (talk) 09:15, 7 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Specifications

Someone might want to update the design weights section, changing the units to lbs and kgs as in other pages, such as for the Boeing 777. Some users might not the notation: xxx (yyy) t means (I don't). Thanks.

[edit] Airbus A330 vs A340

This article does not do a good job pointing out the differences between the A330 and A340 aside from the basic engine count and the casual mention of ETOPS. There is no info here on why Airbus had to develop the A330 and the A340. -Rolypolyman (talk) 17:53, 9 May 2008 (UTC)

There is some mention of the ETOPS situation in the A340 page, which is probably the proper place for that. Feel free to copy some/all of it over here if you feel it needs to be mentioned here too. - BillCJ (talk) 18:03, 9 May 2008 (UTC)

So ETOPS led to the A340 and A330 being developed separately? -Rolypolyman (talk) 18:20, 9 May 2008 (UTC)

I'm not sure what you're saying here. Do you know the answer and are being sarcastic, or are you genuinely asking? Because the section in the A340 page makes the answer pretty clear. - BillCJ (talk) 18:37, 9 May 2008 (UTC)

No, I'm serious. Here's the primary mention of the A330 on the A340 page: The A340 was designed in parallel with the twin-engined A330: both aircraft share the same wing and similar fuselage structure, and borrow heavily from the advanced avionics and composite structure technology developed for the A320, along with The four-engined A340 is able to fly long over-water routes. Because of its ETOPS-immunity, Virgin Atlantic Airways used the motto "4 Engines 4 Long Haul," on its A340 fleet. So what I'm understanding is the only reason the A330 and A340 diverged is over ETOPS issues, and that an airline customer would always select the A330 due to its simplicity (2 engines), except when ETOPS would be a factor in which case they would select the A340. I am genuinely interested in these planes but I have never really been able to comprehend the A330-A340 split. -Rolypolyman (talk) 14:52, 14 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Maiden flight date

An anonymous user recently changed the date of the maiden flight given in the infobox. I changed it back, since the old date had been here for a long time and no reason was given for changing it, but the date needs a source. --Orlady (talk) 17:43, 16 May 2008 (UTC)

Sorry I changed it back before I read the message here! the first flight date is 2 November or 2/11 which I presume has been read by an American editor as 11 February in error. Lots of sources using Google but here is one example [1]. If you search for A330 #0012 (which was the first aircraft) it also has 2 November in various plane spotter sites. MilborneOne (talk) 17:56, 16 May 2008 (UTC)