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The following discussion is archived. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section.

The result of the discussion was merge, and move to Airborne Early Warning and Control. Only objection was from a user who has been inactive since Dec. 2007, except for 2 edits on this page in the discussion. - BillCJ (talk) 16:08, 29 February 2008 (UTC)

1 Requested merger
- 1.1 Survey
- 1.2 Discussion
2 List of AEW&C aircraft

[edit] Requested merger

Airborne Warning and Control System → Airborne Early Warning, and move to Airborne Early Warning and Control.

Proposal - Both articles cover most of the same material. AEW was the early historicl term for E-1/early E-2 era aircraft, including Avenger and Gannet AEWs and the EC-121. The E-3 AWACS added the capability of control, and the term AWACS was then applied to similar aircraft such as the Nimrod AEW and the Russian AWACS-type models. Today, the nuances of both terms are usually covered by the combined phrase "Airborne Early Warning and Control", as almost all such aircraft can perform both the earliy warning and comand and control missions.

(See Wikipedia:Merging and moving pages for details on performing mergers.)

[edit] Survey

Add * '''Support''' or * '''Oppose''' on a new line followed by a brief explanation, then sign your opinion using ~~~~. Since polling is not a substitute for discussion, please explain your reasons.

Support - Per my nomination. - BillCJ (talk) 05:25, 25 January 2008 (UTC)
Oppose - I always have believed that AWACS was the term for a specific system, specifically the Boeing/Westinghouse system used on the Boeing E-3 Sentry and Boeing E-767, which is the only reason I am opposing. If I am correct in this belief (and someone with more experience in this matter may have to inform me), then the AWACS article should be altered to reflect this, and the other, general AEW&C system information should be moved to that article. Otherwise, it would be injustice to the true AWACS system. SAWGunner89 (talk) 14:43, 24 February 2008 (UTC)
- I'm extremely confused as to why you've voted "Oppose": The only specific E-3/E-767 content is two lines, plus the user info, which would belong on the aircraft pages, not a program page. What you seem to be asking for is a new page here on the E-3 AWACS program, with the existing info merged as I have proposed. I'm not sure a dedicated AWACS article is necessary, as the E-3 page should be sufficient to cover the history of the program, along with the radar and E-767 pages. Where do we go from here? If I go ahead and merge the non-E3-/-E767 info, all that will be left is 2 lines (assuming I don't add more info, which I probably would do). But you've "opposed" the merge. - BillCJ (talk) 19:47, 25 February 2008 (UTC)
- I've asked for further input from WP:AIR. - BillCJ (talk) 19:54, 25 February 2008 (UTC)
Support - No reason to have largely redundant articles. The combined article can cover the older terminology. -Fnlayson (talk) 20:07, 25 February 2008 (UTC)
Support - One article approaches from a country by country angle and the other chronological, subjects would support each other if merged. MilborneOne (talk) 20:35, 25 February 2008 (UTC)
Support - There is only one "AWACS" (it's an acronym) and there is already an article on it, the E-3 Sentry. These two articles should be merged into "Airborne Early Warning and Control" (AEW&C), which is the modern technical term for this type of aircraft. Askari Mark (Talk) 01:10, 26 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Discussion

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[edit] List of AEW&C aircraft

I can provide a fairly complete list of AEW/AEW&C aircraft. However, I'm not sure this article needs an even more extended list of aircraft types and detailed Operator info. We could include operators as a column in a list. We could also have a column which identifies radars. Introduction dates and service status are other possible entries. Any discussion on what would be the preferred approach here? Askari Mark (Talk) 02:44, 17 April 2008 (UTC)