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[edit] Susan?

As a caption of a female Airbender airbending, it says the same is Susan. Somebody please remove that there is no evidence of the name and usually names in Avatar the Last Airbender have Asian roots to the name. Also it says "Female Airbending Avatar, "Susan"". Notice the Avatar part of the caption....

And I quote, from The Avatar State, "The creators (jokingly) referred to her as "Avatar Susan" when asked what her name was at the Pacific Media Expo."

She's a past version of the Avatar seen in The Avatar State when Roku showed Aang various past lives of the Avatar, and the creators called her Susan. It wasn't serious, hence the quotes around her name, but that' still what she's called. JBK405 19:52, 19 December 2006 (UTC)

The caption really should either expand upon that or not say it at all, though. Right now the article (captions ARE a part of the article) gives the name, but doesn't put it in the proper context. Those quotes could mean many things, and a reader has no way to know what they mean here (as this discussion proves.) I think, under the circumstances, just removing it would be acceptable.--Fyre2387 (talk • contribs) 21:08, 19 December 2006 (UTC)

Apparently the airbending avatar before Aang was named Yangchen. It was posted in avatarspirit after everyone repeatedly guessed at the passwords for the Nick.com game. So it's revealed but prematurely. Anubisus 04:15, 6 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Airbending, strongest bending?

Someone wrote that airbending is the most powerful form of bending. The fact that all bending types are equal and that it is the skill of the bender that matters has been repeatedly emphasised throughout the series, i am deleting the abovementioned statemeny. - Eldarion Useless link?

You're right there, it's major weakness is it's lack of super-powerful offensive moves, as it has many more useful moves like wind-running. That doesn't make it any better or worse than the others. They are all balanced out so none of the forms are superior. -TDF-

[edit] Useless link

"Unlike other bending disciplines, airbending lacks fatal finishing moves, being an almost entirely defensive art. [1]"

that link takes you to a turboNick short about Airbending, but, the video says nothing about Airbending lacking a finishing move. Remove the Link or the Passage entirley.

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I say remove the link. Having watched every fight in the series, I can't recall Airbending, at least as it has been shown thus far, having any true finishing attacks, in the sense of destructive attacks meant to immediately kill somebody.

Psydon 13:36, 10 June 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Sub-skill?

Does airbending have any sub-skills? No airbending sub-skills were shown in the series (possibly because Aang is the only airbender in it), so we have to assume that airbending does not have a sub-skill, and thus all that "each bending style has a sub-skill unique to their element" statements in other bending articles have to be removed. Sure we know that the fire nation has electrokinesis, waterbenders have healing powers, earthbending has ferrokinesis, but until it is proven that airbending has a sub-skill, to say that each element has a unique sub-skill is purely speculative and should not be in Wikipedia. - Stretchyrubberbands 17:25, 26 November 2006 (UTC)

It's actually been mentioned somewhere but I can't find the source currently. H2P (Yell at me for what I've done) 17:56, 26 November 2006 (UTC)
Wasn't it the way that airbending can be used to augument an airbender's speed? Why isn't Aang's speed mentioned in the article? From an unsigned in Cherries Jubilee.
It probably is the speed boost. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 68.83.50.157 (talk) 03:13, 31 January 2007 (UTC).
nah, speed boosts are just part of airbending, not a special sub-skill. no more than freezing ice is to waterbending. we could probably do something like "Each of the four bending disciplines(minus airbending) contain a special sub-skill..." but even that doesnt read very well.--Piemanmoo 19:23, 9 February 2007 (UTC)
Until there's concrete evidence of an Airbending sub-skill, the "Each of the four bending disciplines contain a special sub-skill..." phrase should be changed. 201.17.29.200 18:05, 24 February 2007 (UTC)

Wouldnt the sub-skill for airbending be sound bending, Like in Tales of Ba sing se?

Not really. Even then, he was just using air to create a louder sound, not creating sound and then bending it. Bagpipeturtle 21:32, 4 June 2007 (UTC)

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Maybe they'll make up some sort of sub-skill (airblades, perhaps?) later on, but maybe airbending isn't meant to have a sub-skill. Airbending is the most versatile of the styles. You'll always have air, and airbenders can mimic telekinesis with it (maybe that is airbending's sub-skill), amongst the many other things they can do. Perhaps that versatility is meant to act in place of a sub-skill.

Psydon 13:34, 10 June 2007 (UTC)

I don't know if this helps, but in another talk page of the bending arts (I don't recall which, unfortunately), there are two links to cards from the Avatar TCG that suggest the soundbending theory is right, the cards' names are Misdirection and Shrieking Wind. This should be considered carefully, as it's not certain whether TCG are considered canon or not (as far as I know). 201.37.30.83 00:17, 7 July 2007 (UTC)

See the cited source here. Mike says pretty flatly that the cards are not canon. Lucky number 49 15:53, 20 July 2007 (UTC)

soundbending is right. It was reviled at comiccon that sound is the sub-element for Air, Lightning for fire, metal for earth, and Plants for water. I don't know if we will get to see any sound bending in the next season. --Shadow 00:01, 7 September 2007 (UTC)

plants for water??? i thought it was blood! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 200.125.78.110 (talk) 20:44, 2 November 2007 (UTC)

it seems that the sub-skill of airbenders is climate. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Poroto1028 (talk • contribs) 23:35, 13 November 2007 (UTC)

It's not, that was a fake spoiler, no climate bending. 201.37.53.73 (talk) 17:49, 18 December 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Genocide

I don't believe the series states that the Fire Nation was attempting to kill the Avatar during their attack on the Air Nation, as this would simply result in the reincarnation of the Avatar into another nation. Based on Admiral Zhao's comments upon capturing Aang that he would keep him captive and weakened, but alive to prevent his reincarnation, I assumed this was the original objective of the Fire Nation, in addition to the destruction of the Air Nation. Thus, the line claiming the Fire Nation's attack missed killing its intended target should be removed. ColonelCurt 06:37, 15 December 2006 (UTC)

Ending the Avatar cycle requires killing every member of a nation, so he was a target by default, but you're right, we've never had any information to say that he was the specific target of the attacks, and we have generic information stating that the Fire Nation wouldn't kill him even if they had the chance. You're right, that part should be altered, at least (Though I think some sort of reference should remain, since he was the ultimate target). JBK405 23:03, 15 December 2006 (UTC)

But didn't the Fire Nation technically kill the avatar cycle. Aang is the last airbender. When the cycle eventually comes around for the avatar to be reborn into the air nomads, as there aren't any left then the cycle will end. Or have I got this wrong. Maybe someone should add this in the article.Bendragonbrown47 19:36, 6 January 2007 (UTC)

Aang could have children and repopulate the race. Either way, what's to happen in the future is pretty much all speculation at this point.--Fyre2387 (talk • contribs) 19:42, 6 January 2007 (UTC)
Maybe there are Air Nomads hiding throughout the world. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 68.83.50.157 (talk • contribs). 03:14, 1 February 2007 (UTC)

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It's true that they never went specifically after the Avatar; they just wanted to kill him/her and his/her people so as to break the cycle. It just so happened to be the Air Nomads. And then they would go after the Water Tribes and Earth Kingdom, in order of the cycle. And there you have it. No more Avatar, save only for the last one that would be a member of the Fire Nation.

Psydon 13:39, 10 June 2007 (UTC)



Air bending could be used to increase or decrease ones muscles by altering the air going to them —Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.48.85.5 (talk) 21:11, 31 October 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Weakness

So, how do you weaken an airbender?

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You can't. There's nothing that draws away an Airbender's power or increases an Earthbender's power, and unlike the other styles you can't take an Airbender away from air. Airbending's weaknesses are:

1. Air is weak. You need a LOT of power to do what Aang does to his opponents (ex. pushing a massive Sabertooth LionMoose that's easily as big as a house several meters back) with just air, and even that stuff only goes so far (if Aang was inside one of those metal coffins Toph learned to metalbend in, airbending-and the other styles except fire, but that's besides the point-wouldn't help at all). Yes, we all know that Airbenders use circular motions to generate that power and they get through conflicts via other methods anyway, but still.

2. Airbending, the fighting style, is so passive it doesn't matter that much if the pracitioner is weakened.

Psydon 13:30, 10 June 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Kuruk

He arbends in Avatarescape.com, so stop talking him off the list. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 64.107.220.88 (talk) 22:07, 10 March 2007 (UTC).

Honestly, I'm not sure listing everyone ever known to Airbend is nesscary. I mean, the section is Notable Airbenders, not "Every Airbender Ever".--Fyre2387 (talk • contribs) 22:09, 10 March 2007 (UTC)

Kuruk is notable.

That's your opinion, I think this edit war here is evidence that not everyone agrees.--Fyre2387 (talk • contribs) 22:18, 10 March 2007 (UTC)

Well since ya finally decided to take it to the talk page, I pay you some acknowlegdent, probably didn't spell it right. First off, don't recall ever saying that we never saw Kuruk airbending, I said firebending. Second, face it, if it weren't for this whole made-up-on-the-spot Avatar Event thingie (which by the way had a super-surpising "it'll be like it all never happened" ending), you wouldn't even know the first letter of of the dude's name, which leads me to wonder why you're so zealous towards all this. Seriously, you think you're gonna win a Nobel Prize or somethin? Eh, probably just an Avatard being an Avatard. Yeah so anyway, like its been said before, keyword "notable", and I enjoyed the comics too. ~Father's Wish 11 March 2007 (UTC)

Yeah, but see never Roku Airbend ether. Ruko airbends on avatarescape.com with is also the same site we can find Kuruk airbending and FYI, it's not a made-up-on-the-spot thing, it's real facts. I find lots of stuff her the were just based on that site, and FYI, I've been an Avatar fan since Feb 2005.

Whoa hoa hoa, Feb of 05, lets just role out the red carpet. Anyway, we don't know how canon the site is. It even said Aang won't remember any of what happened. H2P (Yell at me for what I've done) 23:19, 12 March 2007 (UTC)

No, it says that it will be like he only had a bad dream and it is a canon. Not only have I found many things here that come fron that site, but on TV, they were advertizing it on Nickalodean, repeatively! This get thought that site, you eed code words. The code words were only relieved on Nickalodean. It is a clear sign that it is true what is on that site/

I agree with listing Kuruk as a notable Airbender, he did bend in A:EftWS, if Roku, who was never seen on-screen Airbending is a notable Airbender for being the Avatar, so must Kuruk. 189.4.230.173 22:50, 25 March 2007 (UTC)

Roku is notable because he's had an entire minute of screentime. Same can't be said of Kuruk. Again, this section isn't ""Every Airbender Ever".--Fyre2387 (talk • contribs) 03:10, 26 March 2007 (UTC)

Based on that logic, Yangchen is soon to go. Shes had the same three seconds of screentime as Kuruk. Why don't we just take her off now, shes about as notable as Kuruk. Oh wait, she should be kept because she came out of the Air Nomads you say? Well, in every sense of the term, thats Racism! Sarcasm aside, I believe that the list should include the past four Avatars. It really rounds the bunch out, and reinforces the fact that the Avatars were masters of all the elements. Besides, wheres the harm in it? 72.234.46.143 14:21, 12 July 2007 (UTC)

I agree, Kuruk should be included. The Spirit World animated comics are canon. The creators even went about saying this on the DVD. So just add him already since he's one of the four main previous incarnations. Modem 05:04, 24 September 2007 (UTC)

Except, as we've been saying, simply having Airbended doesn't make them Notable. Has he had an impact on the plot of the series? Has he influenced a characters actions? Has he done anything to make not knowing about him a serious impediment to understanding the series? No? Well then, that's not quite notable. JBK405 13:54, 24 September 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Where are all the pictures?

Sorry to bother all of you working on the Avatar article but were are the photos?

Not that it matters but I liked it when there were pictures of the different air temples on the air temple section of the airbending article and I think others like it too.

Also on the article of the animals on Avatar, why are all the pictures of the animals gone, again this is just personally but I think putting images of the animals was really good. Until resently I had only seen about 10 episodes of Avatar so I missed alot of infomation including animals, so when I came to wikipedia and I saw what they looked like which again I found very useful because I had trouble imagening a Platapus Bear, Bagermole, and flying leemer, even a flying bison is hard to constract in the mind. So for all the other people who have not seen or can't imagen a possum chiken I say the pictures should be braught back, also because having the name of what your talking about and then a picture with it just makes a lot of sence.

Carlos Tapia.

[edit] Wind Sword

Can we mention the Wind Sword that appeared in "Sokka's Master?" 71.168.85.188 23:38, 19 October 2007 (UTC) Fantasy Leader

Nope. It didn't actually appear, it was only mentioned, and it isn't an actual thing, it's just a particular way to bend (and it might not even be that, for all we know Aang's never even done it). JBK405 00:16, 20 October 2007 (UTC)

What do you mean it didn't appear? We see Aang showing Katara the sword handle, and explaining how the Wind Sword works. Can't it be mentioned as another weapon like the Glider Staff and the Metal Fans? 216.204.100.226 16:06, 1 November 2007 (UTC) Fantasy Leader

No, because the Wind Sword didn't appear. A sword handle appeared, and Aang mentioned what he could do with it, but the technique (If it is a real technique) itself was not in the show. Also, even if it had appeared (Or was confirmed to really exist), it wouldn't be a "weapon," but rather a style/form; the sword handle isn't actually used for anything (Unlike the glider), it's just something he holds while he bends a certain way. JBK405 05:53, 7 November 2007 (UTC)

This is really reaching. That scene in "Sokka's Master" was a joke. The wind sword was just an idea to "complete the outfit". Aang probably could pull something like that off--after all, he, Katara, and Toph seem to be able come up with brand new ways to use bending on the spur of the moment with no training or practice, so much so that it seems to contradict the notion of bending having "techniques"--but he has yet to do it. SteveG (talk) 16:02, 29 December 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Airbending at it's purest

I know that we have no idea what Airbending is at it's purest, but just to let everyone know, air at it's purest, is Hydrogen. If an Airbender can control hydrogen, they will be able to do things like create sparks, etc. I'm not saying this is true info. I just wanted to mention it. 216.204.100.226 16:06, 1 November 2007 (UTC) Fantasy Leader

What makes Hydrogen purer than Oxygen? Or Nitrogen? They're all a part of what is considered "air," what makes any one more pure than the other? JBK405 05:49, 7 November 2007 (UTC)

Moleculer bending then, like controling the oxigen aroud you and stoping you breathing. But this is not the place to discusse theorys. Take somewere else m'okay--Tosta mista (talk) 02:11, 18 November 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Climate Control

This information is garnered from leaked information in the yet-to-be-aired episode "Western Air Temple". Undoubtedly, if such a technique is going to appear in said episode, people will try to add information before the episode even airs, which isn't going to happen until either very late in December or January. I guess with such information quickly sweeping the net, this is a reminder that it's prohibited on all Avatar Wikipages to post information about unaired episodes outside of discussion pages. This is, however, still theory but I'm going to post what I found about it in discussion anywho, because, well, this is a discussion page!

At the Western Air Temple, Aang and the gang discover a sealed-off room that contains information about a new Airbending technique: Climate Control. It's the advanced power of Airbending, just as Metalbending, Lightningbending and Bloodbending are for the other elements, but is considered so devastating that it was prohibited by Airbenders, since it went strongly against their peaceful ways. Aang states that like basic air techniques, he understands how to do it, but fears its consequences. Weather is affected by three key ingredients: heat, water, and wind; by manipulating the wind element on a grand scale, Airbenders can drastically upset the weather and bring abnormal changes to the climate, ie. the ability to create tornadoes, cyclones, storms, etc. My speculation is that this technique, though powerful, is entirely uncontrollable and unpredictable.

The Western Air Temple has aired in Canada, and it was nothing like the leak described, there's no known advanced Airbending sub-skill yet. Aang did create a great looking mini tornado though, we should try getting that image for the article. 189.32.153.180 (talk) 21:03, 15 December 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Sound Manipulation?

Some superheroes with air-powers have the ability to amplify small vibrations in the air and hear things from far away. I noticed in The Runaway that Aang sensed Combustion Man's presence from a considerable distance and thought that this is a possible explanation. Comments? Maybe this could be the elusive Airbender sub skill?

Major disclaimer: This may be pure fantasy from someone who reads too many comics!Lozregan (talk) 00:43, 19 December 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Realy the Last Airbender?

I recently read in the Avatar magazine that there are maney more airbenders left than just Ang, it was stated in a Q&A section. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 65.211.83.82 (talk) 17:18, 21 December 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Techniques

Well, a ton of techniques have just been added to the page, and I'm not sure about some of them. Many of them require some cleanup and rewording to be encyclopedic, and the names of such moves should be what we feel is appropriate, but what their actual names are. Ub3rn008 (talk) 10:30, 7 January 2008 (UTC)

There's no reason for them to be there at all. It's not important information. Save the lists for the Avatar wiki.

Naturally I welcome any argument defending its placement but just reverting it will do no good.

http://avatar.wikia.com/wiki/Main_Page His royal majesty, Lord Holy Ono (talk) 21:34, 7 January 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Does this really need its own article?

I hate to be "that guy", but does this really need its own article? I can't imagine it's notable, as it shows no hits on Google News or Scholar, and none of the refs are from non-primary sources.

Could the four types of bending be merged into one larger article? Already this article seems to be over-expanded - it could really stand to be trimmed and merged into a "Bending (Avatar)" or "Elemental Bending" article.

Thank you for your time.Not even Mr. Lister's Koromon survived intact. 18:05, 29 January 2008 (UTC)

No way, airbending definitely deserves its own page! Jason Garrick (talk) 23:46, 19 February 2008 (UTC)

Actually, i do not think that this article deserves its own page. I think that it should be merges with them all, kinda Bending Styles in Avatar: The Last Airbender. And then have four main sections, each broken into subsections to include the highlights of each style. Rau J16 01:07, 20 February 2008 (UTC)

If we merged all the articles than the article would be way too long (Asumeing that we wish to do them juctice.)

really, doing them justice would be to merge them and not go into so much unimportant trivia - this level of detail is appropriate for an avatar wikia, not wikipedia, from what I can tell.Not even Mr. Lister's Koromon survived intact. 18:50, 28 February 2008 (UTC)
Exactly, upon a merge the only information that should be present about the bending art is the actual technique behind it. Rau J16 20:40, 29 February 2008 (UTC)
No. As I said in amother page, it isn't broken. Don't fix it. -TDF- —Preceding unsigned comment added by 82.25.3.129 (talk) 17:21, 16 March 2008 (UTC)
And who determines whether or not it is broken, all of the important information here could be organized into one article. This discussion really needs to be in a place that attracts all of the Avatar editors in a common place, instead of split between the articles. Rau's talk 18:21, 16 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Protection

The page has been protected for the weekend. The blanking looked like it was getting annoying. Rau's Speak Page 20:07, 23 May 2008 (UTC)

Source of the vandalism in question. --  Netsnipe  ►  14:51, 27 May 2008 (UTC)
I can understand why you would remove Netsnipe's comment, but please try to refrain from removing people's comments. What he was trying to say is that the vandalism is coming from that page. If you scroll down, there is a title that says "The Wikipedia Editor", and under it, it says "Some rascal blanks the 9,000 word entry on 'Airbending' and ClueBot flags anyone trying to correct the entry as a vandal using an open proxy." I think what Netsnipe meant was that this page was encouraging people to blank this article, which is a very good possibility. I really hate it when people take so much away from Wikipedia (knowledge-wise, when they research stuff, etc.), and yet they describe the actual contributors as lazy good-for-nothings that do not do anything right. — Parent5446 (t n e l) 01:07, 28 May 2008 (UTC)