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[edit] A question

Were did that image of the western air temple come from?--Tosta mista 00:02, 12 November 2007 (UTC)

[edit] National Emblem

I have never seen that emblem before. Last time I remember it was three spirals. A Link to this emblem? Proof that it exists.

That is the icon for airbending, not the nomads.

I too don't remember ever seeing this flag. H2P ^{(Yell at me for what I've done)} 05:25, 30 August 2006 (UTC)

No the the icon is the three little circles, I have never seen this image in the show. Please provide proof, or it will be taken down for lack of citation.

[edit] Is there a Western Air Temple?

Is there any actual indications (from the show or Nickelodeon) that there is a western air temple? Looking at the map from the show opening, we see only three regions of land that are marked as white (Air Nomad territory). What appears to be a region of land above the fire nation is actually smoke rising from the volcanoes in the fire nation and the white land above that is probably the Northern Air Temple territory. I think that the Western Air Temple should be removed from this article until there is confromation that a Western Air Temple exists.

Link to image referenced below

I have read that the Northern Air Temple exists within the large mountain range to the north in Earth Kingdom territory, as it is written on most maps (like the one on the right). I'm not sure if this is speculation or fact, but if so, then the land above the Fire Nation is most definitely the Western Air Temple candidate. Pictorally, even, this land seems more west than north. Another important detail that suggests that the Northern Air Temple is in Earth Kingdom "territory", or at least part of the same landmass, is that the Mechanist and the other refugees migrated there, most likely on foot. If it were in the white mountains to the NW on the map, it seems less likely that they would go to all that trouble finding a boat, etc., to seek refuge. --Tryforceful 06:18, 26 July 2006 (UTC)

Well I think the white portions of the map are Air Nomad territory (is that an oxymoron?). So in that case I think there is probably at least air territory in all the locations. The only question is, is (was) there a temple in that territory H2P 06:23, 26 July 2006 (UTC)

At this site, it states that the Northern Air Temple is in Earth Kingdom territory, at least. --Tryforceful 18:45, 26 July 2006 (UTC)

According the 2005 Comic Con Avatar: The Last Airbender Panel with the show's creators, there are 4 Air Temples (North, South, East and West), and that the Northern and Southern Air Temples were exclusively male. While only three air temples are marked on current maps, if you watch the old Sneak Peek trailer for the show, it has a map in which the northern mountain in the Earth Kingdom is indeed marked as an Air Temple (see this screenshot of the trailer). Given this evidence, it's probably safe to say that the Northern Air Temple is located in the northern Earth Kingdom mountain range, while the Western Air Temple is the marked Air Temple right off the coast. –Prototime (talk • contribs) 19:20, 26 July 2006 (UTC)

I thought the N and S Air Tempels were male. Atleast I think the southern one was, that's where Aang came from. H2P 19:45, 26 July 2006 (UTC)

Quite right; I meant to say male. –Prototime (talk • contribs) 20:50, 26 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Merging

I find no reason for the Airbender and Air Nomads to be merged unless we did it to each other nation and I don't think any of them need it. It would require link changes WAY too many times as well as a lot of work merging the two. H2P 06:26, 26 July 2006 (UTC)

That's not what I'm saying. See below two topics. --Tryforceful 06:34, 26 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Move Airbender#Air Temple Fauna section into this article

When talking in reference to the Air Temple, it seems more associated to the Air Nomads as a culture and nation than Airbenders in general, a people who do not necessarily need to inhabit the temples. Aang, as Avatar, is one example of an Airbender who doesn't permanently reside there, but there likely were others. The Airbender article contains information more on the people and the ability of Airbending than of places like the Air Temples. If merged, I'd intend that information to be mixed with the Airbending Animals section of this article. Also, see the next discussion topic below. --Tryforceful 06:33, 26 July 2006 (UTC)

Agree, feel free to do it. We should mask all the bending arts and all the nations in the same kind of format. H2P 06:49, 26 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Differentiating Air Nomads and Airbender articles

The two articles have a lot of information in common, which is thus redundant; it should be better delineated just what each article intends to elaborate on beyond the explicit definitions of Air Nomads and Airbenders. For example, both speak of the arrow tattoos and shaven heads of male monks. Suggestions below? Or else, what should be done? --Tryforceful 06:33, 26 July 2006 (UTC)

Here is the problem, we don't KNOW hardly anything about the Air Nomads and barely know anything about airbending other than what Aang and Iroh have told us. The pages are going to be small unless we really start pulling in info from generalization of small pieces of info from the show. H2P 06:50, 26 July 2006 (UTC)

I've heard that the Air Nomads were all Airbenders, but I don't have access to proof of this. -Ryuko 02:04, 8 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Are there any Airbenders here?

I'm one, You have to be born in fall to be an airbender. 4myself4 23:43, 16 October 2006 (UTC)

How so? if you look at the Zodiac, each astrological sign has it's own element attached to it which is how I based the userboxes. H2P ^{(Yell at me for what I've done)} 05:14, 17 October 2006 (UTC)

Technically, Airbenders are born year round, its just the MOST Airbenders re born in fall. The same works for the other elements and their respective seasons. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Ub3rn008 (talk • contribs) 10:16, 30 November 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Female Airbenders

There have been two female airbenders in the series so far. One of them was a past avatar and another one was called Sister Iio taken from the nick.com website.

[edit] Color of the Elements

I'm just wondering, The Water Tribe wear blue because the water looks blue, but the swamp water benders wear green, because the water looks green. So why do you Air Nomads wear Yellow, if you can't Air? Why don't they wear clear cloths (or no cloths)?

Well, nudity in frigid mountain tops isn't the best idea. And I doubt Nickelodeon would be very interested in a show with a 12 year old protagonists in transparent clothes.--Fyre2387 ^{(talk • contribs)} 15:30, 25 November 2006 (UTC)

Yeah, I guess you're right. Not to mention, Airbenders can glide and fly. I wonder how it would look if you had a who bunch of naked people flying around everyone where you all see them.

All of the nations get their colors from their respective seasons. The season for the Water Tribes is Winter, their colors of blues and whites reflect the snow, ice, and especially the ocean. The Earth Kingdom's season is spring, and they more strictly adhere to this with their greens and yellows. Consequently earth in spring is covered by grass. Summer is the season of the Fire Nation. They seem to wear dark red as the fire burning within them is filled with willpower, yet tainted with pride, and lust for power. It seems very fitting for the antagonists of the show. The season for the Air Nomads is fall, the yellows and red-browns match the colors of the changing leaves. These soft colors are peaceful and tranquil. Just as the leaves may be carried away from the tree by the wind, the Air Nomads too float off wherever they please, letting fate take them wherever they may wind up. 72.234.46.143 13:45, 3 July 2007 (UTC)

[edit] What Will Happen to the Avatar Cycle?

The Avatar Cycle goes in a continuous pattern: Water, Earth, Fire, and Air. It is also established that Aang is the very last Airbender. So what will happen to the Avatar Cycle? Will it cease to exist, due to the fact that there are no more Airbenders?—The preceding unsigned comment was added by Kite.ryde (talk • contribs).

Quite simply, we don't know. Many theories exist, but none are official, and Wikipedia is not the place to speculate. Ask on an Avatar forum and you'll get a dozen different replies. If the show ever addresses the problem, we'll come back to it then. --Herald Alberich 23:05, 19 February 2007 (UTC)

No all that it is is that he is the last airbender, because the rest are dead. killed by the fire nation. Thats all. As long as he dies out of avatar state, there will be another avatar... —Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.118.144.236 (talk) 03:12, 13 September 2007 (UTC)

True, this is because of the Avatar cycle, which goes from Air, to Water, to Earth, then to Fire. When Aang dies, a Water Tribe Avatar will be born, then an Earth Kingdom one, and then a Fire Nation avatar. But what this person is asking is what will happen when the cycle comes back around? There are no more Air Nomads for an Avatar to be born into. Will the cycle be broken and discontinued? Will the cycle go around to the Water Tribes because they are the next ones in line? Will The Mechanist's great great grandchild be an Avatar? We will probably never know. 72.234.46.115 06:35, 6 November 2007 (UTC)

He might not actually be the last air nomad (just the last to be seen) and after all if he has kids they could be classed as Air Nomads thus be Airbenders thus fixing the problem with that Avatar cycle. Joeking16 (talk) 19:25, 28 November 2007 (UTC)

Very true. In fact, as long as he doesn't die an untimely death, and has children, he can train them to be airbenders. And it will be about 3 and a half centuries before the cycle goes back around, giving Aang's descendants some time to build themselves up again. Perhaps longer, if another Avatar is born with Avatar Kyoshi's iron constitution. Ub3rn008 (talk) 09:07, 30 November 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Season 3 check list

Get show times.
Need to get picture of western air temple.
New entries for episodes.
and format any new charaters.

[edit] New Airbenders

I can see, that this might not be a problem anymore, since there are probably no more airbenders. But my question is: Is somewhere explained, how the airnomads get children? As the genders live separated in different temples, there doesn't seem to be much of an occasion to beget airbender-babies. And are the monks celibate? --217.95.158.84 17:26, 17 July 2007 (UTC)

Since there's no official word on this that anyone has posted, we really can't say. Anything further is speculation, which is not permitted on Wikipedia. Lucky number 49 17:30, 17 July 2007 (UTC)

I can't, and won't, speculate on whether or not the monks are celibate, nor the Air Nomad's rules on sexuality, but I do know that they don't live in gender seclusion. True, the children are raised in gender-specific locations, but we have seen in the series that the children do travel between the Air Temples, even to temples not of their gender, and Aang never stops talking about all the travelig he used to do in the time before the war. The very title of their nation, the Air Nomads, reveals that they are not a stationary people. They probably won't go into details in a childrens show, but so far there's been nothing to suggest that adult Airbenders can't move amongst one-another or congregate in multi-gender groups. JBK405 20:56, 17 July 2007 (UTC)

Please discontinue this discussion. Talk pages on Wikipedia are for the discussion of the improvement of the article, not speculation or general discussion about the topic. Lucky number 49 22:17, 17 July 2007 (UTC)

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[edit] Name of the Article

The article has been called Air Nomads since that is the name of the people and that is what is has been referred to. However, in last night's episode it was referred to as the Air Nation. Because of that, shouldn't the article be called Air Nation and a note should say that the people are called Air Nomads?

User: ShadowRanger 09:16, September 29, 2007 (CST)

I don't think so...Ms.Kwan (the teacher) is the only one we've ever heard refer to it that way, and she was hardly impartial. It seems like the Fire Nation propaganda machine claims that the Air Nomads were an entire nation, with a military and so forth, but in reality that just wasn't the case.--Fyre2387 ^{(talk • contribs)} 02:28, 30 September 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Video Game

What about the people who weren't airbenders who were shown to live at the base of the mountains in the video game? Shouldn't they be mentioned in the article? Or are they not canon? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.252.225.96 (talk) 00:40, 17 October 2007 (UTC)

Haven't played the game, but no. I might live on land that once belonged to the Native Americans, but it doesn't make me a citizen of one of their nations (Although I have more than one friend who makes the ridiculous claim of legally being Native American). Just living in or near their land doesn't make them part of the nation. JBK405 02:55, 17 October 2007 (UTC)

I haven't played the game either, but I am wondering at what time did these people live near the Air Temple? Because if they were Air Nomad citizens who couldn't Airbend, then they probably couldn't live in the Temple, so they might live at its base. Or if this is after the Air Nomads got wiped out, then they aren't Air Nomad Citizens. Ub3rn008 (talk) 10:23, 20 December 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Nomads in The cave of Two Lovers

I have removed the "(besides some "nomads" from the episode 'The Cave of Two Lovers')" part from the article there is no evience to suggest they are Air Nomads. Joeking16 (talk) 19:32, 28 November 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Delay of the episode 'The Western Air Temple'

I removed uncited information claiming that the reason for the delay of the episode "The Western Air Temple" was due to graphic violence.

I felt that such information would be best served in another article, perhaps one devoted to the episode, but it was not a good fit under the 'Western Air Temple' section of the Air Nomads article. —Preceding unsigned comment added by ForeverZero (talk • contribs) 16:36, 9 December 2007 (UTC)

[edit] The "Unknown" Air temple

It comes from the "avatar and the firelord" episold. What do u think it is? It looks like 3 southern air temple. 122.57.218.249 (talk) 04:00, 18 December 2007 (UTC)

Are there only 1 temple in each part, or is there many different temples (Souther Airtemple(s))? Because as u can see on the map, there are many islands that belong to the air nomads, do they all airtemples on them?122.57.218.249 (talk) 04:06, 18 December 2007 (UTC)

There is only one Southern Air Temple, that land mass is simply Air Nomad Territory (or WAS), and speculation can't even begin to describe what the territory contained. And how is that Air Temple unknown? The Northern and Southern Air Temples are situated on only one mountain top, and the Western Air Temple is on the underside of a cliff. There is only one Air Temple Spread over 3 mountain tops, and thats the Eastern Air Temple. Therefore the "Unknown" Air Temple is DEFINITELY the Eastern Air Temple. Ub3rn008 (talk) 10:18, 20 December 2007 (UTC)

OK. look at southern airtemple VERY CAREFULLY, now look at the "unknown" airtemple. u can clearly see that the buildings r exactly the same. Now look at the western airtemple, then campare it with the "unknown" airtemple. there is no similarity, except both have 3 temples, but the 3 western airtemples is joint by pathways and the "unknown" airtemple is not. 122.57.222.168 (talk) 05:13, 21 December 2007 (UTC)

But what other Air temple could this be? If a pattern is to be followed then there are four Air Temples, one for each of the Four Cardinal Directions, North, South, East, and West. The article itself doesn't mention the possibility of more Air Temples. So unless there are more Air Temples, this is probably a rare continuity oversight on the part of the animators, and it is intended to be the Eastern Air Temple. Ub3rn008 (talk) 06:01, 21 December 2007 (UTC)

What's up with deleting the image all the time? - Nytemyre (talk) 10:37, 10 January 2008 (UTC)

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