Talk:Aidan McAnespie

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[edit] First Line

What do editors think do we need to know that Aidan was an was an Irish Catholic is it relevent to the article. BigDunc 20:02, 15 November 2007 (UTC)

I'd say it's useful to have some information, whether it be Catholic or Nationalist, so that context can be established. All depends on what the sources say I suppose. One Night In Hackney303 20:07, 15 November 2007 (UTC)

I would agree with ONIH, it is down to what the sources say. Like BD, I don’t think it is relevant, and would caution against newspaper sources use of it. I will go through some books tomorrow and see what they have to say, if editors want? --Domer48 21:27, 15 November 2007 (UTC)

Time use Catholic. While to almost anyone from Ireland or familiar with it his GAA membership shows his background, it's not at all obvious to anyone else so it's a useful qualifier for them. It might be better as "Nationalist", if it can be sourced. One Night In Hackney303 23:02, 15 November 2007 (UTC)


Sorry to be pedantic, but was he actually a "Nationalist" per se? From what I've read of his life he seems to have been fairly apolitical-just an innocent Catholic who lived and worked in a border town. Using Catholic would probably be more helpful to readers who aren't familiar with the background to The Troubles. GiollaUidir 08:27, 4 December 2007 (UTC)
I agree, I dont think we should be using the term Nationalist unless its referenced. There is a fair assumption that Aidan was a nationalist of description but wiki doesnt do "truth" we do "verifiable information".--Vintagekits 17:46, 4 December 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Is last section relevant?

"In 2007, his brother Vincent, husband of the Monaghan Sinn Féin councillor Brenda McAnespie, was arrested, along with Gerry McGeough, in connection with terrorist offences and with the 1981 attempted murder of Sammy Brush, a former member of the Ulster Defence Regiment."

Thoughts on keeping/losing this section? Not really needed for an understanding of Aidan's life. If I had my Assume the worst hat on I would maybe even say it was added by an editor with an agenda to use the words SINN FEIN and TERRORIST in the same sentence...GiollaUidir 08:35, 4 December 2007 (UTC)

It was added by me. I didn't/don't have an agenda, although I don't think everyone who includes the words "Sinn Féin" and "terrorist" in the same sentence does. At the time, the article was up for AFD, and I was trying to get as many reliable sources together as possible (I didn't have an agenda for keeping the article either; I came across it at AFD, though it was interesting, and had some time on my hands. AFAIK, it's the only "local" article I've participated in to a significant extent.) I think the information is relevant because it is really the only information about his family in there, and the Belfast Telegraph though it noteworthy to mention Aiden McAnespie's death in the article about his brother's arrest.
If you check out the article history, you can see that I wrote quite a lot of the article, along with Padraig, and I hope I was fairly even-handed. However, I've already been drawn into one editing disagreement this week, and I have no interest in becoming involved in another one, so I don't mind you deleting it if you feel it is inappropriate. --Kateshortforbob 17:16, 4 December 2007 (UTC)
Cool beans. I see your reasons for adding, pretty sound actually. :) Regards, GiollaUidir (talk) 21:24, 6 December 2007 (UTC)