Talk:Ai (Bible)
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[edit] The Ai Subject
68.34.107.47 12:19, 29 September 2007 (UTC)Ai (Bible): Perhaps I am the first writer on the subject of Ai. I am on the side of Archaeologists who oppose the location of Ai at Et-tell but let us not make a new mistake over an old one. The location itself does not fit the description of Genesis when Abraham is supposed to set Ai to the East (of Hebron) and Bethel to the West (of it). If we look at the map we find the wrong location: both the supposed Ai and the presumed Bethel are far to the north of Hebron. I believe that Edward Robinson and William Albright are honest scholars who wanted to force the map of Palestine to fit the available information. Today we have satellites and sophisticated cartography but also the nation of Arabia has risen from its deep sleep. The Lebanese historians are analysing the etymology of the names of their hundreds of villages and twonships and are finding astonishing resemblance with the Bible stories and names with itineraries. I used to work with a construction company in Juddah who supervised a road construction between Najran and Jabal (Mount) Lubnan in Yemen. Lubnan is the true name of the "English" name of Lebanon. The examples are innumerable to make us forget the works of Edward Robinson with his English tongue. The stories of migrations of tribes from Arabia to the North show priceless similarities between the names of places and townships in Arabia or Yemen and their counterpart in Palestine and Lebanon (Lubnan). That is how you find Sechem and Garizzim in Lebanon, not in Palestine. Also the name of Bettin in Palestine and its similar name of Beiteddin in Lebanon are additional clues. The names of the most eminent tribes (families) in Lebanon give us evidence of these migrations, families like Shimeon, Manassa, Nasser, Issa, Lazar, Pharaon, Ibrahim, Ashkar, Ushaykir, Thabet, Bureidi, Thuwayni, Yammin, Imran, etc... are christian families who migrated from Arabia to Lebanon long before Islam. The remnants of these families are still alive in Arabia although without relations between them. The migration of tribes from Yemen to the North is a subject worth being investigated just like the Lebanese historians are doing today. This includes the name of Bethel, which means the House of God. The region of Mecca [please read my comments about Micah] offers valuable clues as to the country of Abraham location and geography. The name of Hajj itself is a particular term in Arabic specially used for the pilgrimage to Mecca. The local tribes in Hijaz pronounce the J as a Ye and the Ha (as in Hayatt) as a 'Ayn, it is a current permutation in their local dialects. The term Hajj is not only a verb but also a name, a name of place that the tribes utilised to indicate the Heading for Mecca, for centuries before Islam. The name of Hajj is a strong proposal to solve the controversy of Ai. It is not a coincidence that the Mecca area gathers names like Misfilah and Shor in addition to the Kaabah, which is called the "Old House of God". It happens that a town in the actual Jordan east of Petra is called Ai, excatly as the Bible recorded the name, unfortunately this location does not fit the biblical description and geography, it falls on the other side of the Araba valley. I predict that understanding the Arabian tradition and dialects can help clarify a multitude of the controversies surrounding the Biblical events. The barrier between the Modern Hebrew and the Arabic language being only a matter of pronunciation. Respectfully. Noureddine 12:20, 29 September 2007 (UTC)
I'm definitely not a trained archeologist, but did have a fling with Egyptology long ago. It seems odd to me that no one has explored the connection of the city Ai with the Egyptian pharaoah of the same name, spelled Ay. kosboot (talk) 23:29, 25 November 2007 (UTC)
This link suggests the imminent location as Bethel, indicating Ai as an alternate stronghold.
http://www.answers.com/topic/ai-ancient-city-in-the-old-testament
I found this link and thought it interesting. ←Macksfield (talk) 14:08, 29 December 2007 (UTC)
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