Talk:Ahmed Said Khadr
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"Khadr immigrated to Canada from Egypt in 1997." doesn't sound right.—iFaqeer (Talk to me!) 22:07, Dec 21, 2004 (UTC)
- Agreed. Apparently I wrote that originally. I must have meant 1977, because I was working from CBC sources, probably this timeline, which claims 1977. --Saforrest 20:49, Jun 24, 2005 (UTC)
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[edit] Recent changes
Wanted to address some recent changes, because while the family may dispute them - I'd be interested in why they were removed entirely.
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- In 2001, Khadr and his family attended the wedding of bin Laden's son, Muhammad, a friendly gesture which bin Laden reciprocated when he later attended the wedding of Khadr's daughter Zaynab. - all sources indicate this is true, no? In fact it gets mentioned often, whenever the papers talk about the Khadrs - I can't think of any reason we shouldn't explain the incident.
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- Khadr was killed in South Waziristan on 2 October 2003 when the Pakistani army launched a counter-terrorism operation against the East Turkestan Islamic Movement's presence on the Afghan border. - right now has been reduced to the place and date, I think the context is important - even if the wording is fixed, so that readers know if he was shot, killed by a bomb being dropped on a house, run over by a truck, killed by a criminal, by an army, etc.
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- "an associate of Osama bin Laden", while I agree "terrorist leader" might be disputed or incorrect - isn't it fair to address the fact that the Khadr family *were* associates of bin Laden? We wouldn't have an article on this man if he were just a computer engineer in an NGO, he is notable and newsworthy because of his connection to UBL.
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- In addition, the section on the Mahdi Army I believe should be left in, though perhaps re-worded. It is important that the information exists, even if it is simply "fear-mongering" or "jumping to conclusions" by the National Post - we should still say that the National Post reported it, not that it's true.
Sherurcij (Speaker for the Dead) 01:12, 6 August 2007 (UTC)
Well to answer you Q's I say:
- UBL may have attended my wedding but no one from my family ever attended his sons wedding.
- We did not belong or live amongs the ETIM, and so it would seem strang for the Pakistani army to launch an attack ment for them on the house that had my father. As for the way he was killed, we know there was a fire fight as well as air missiles.
- We were acquaintances, but never associates of UBL, and that is where the misconceptions accrue.
- The section about the Mahdi Army has no truth to it, and so I did not see a reason to keep it.
(Zaynab Khadr 04:07, 6 August 2007 (UTC))
- Alright, well I think it's important to address the points the media accuses, even if it's to say "The National Post reported that..., a charge which is disputed by the family who point out that...". People come to the article because they've heard the charges in the media, so if there's absolutely no mention here, they'll assume the article is either incomplete or whitewashed - it is much better to address each point the media has levelled against the family. As for the firefight, was it the Pakistani Army? ISI? Unknown? Sherurcij (Speaker for the Dead) 23:12, 6 August 2007 (UTC)
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- Well I guess you have a point, I don't like all the lies and I can't respond to all of them, but I'd like to see thier sources first. As for the firefight, it was the Pakistani army + personal from the US army, I remember my brother Abdulkareem clearly saying he could see and hear some Americans.
(Zaynab Khadr 15:30, 7 August 2007 (UTC))
[edit] Letter by A.S. Khadr?
http://clearinghouse.infovlad.net/attachment.php?attachmentid=457&stc=1&d=1200652963
From around 1999. Anybody recognize the signature?
209.121.88.198 (talk) 10:47, 18 January 2008 (UTC)
[edit] HCI/Sudan/Truck
This article (admittedly quite biased) alleges that the Sudanese Zawahiri-follower involved with the Embassy Bombing and living with the Khadr family at the time he purchased a truck used in the bombing...was actually either a "suitor" or married to Zaynab at the time. Sherurcij (Speaker for the Dead) 22:29, 9 February 2008 (UTC)
[edit] Discrepency
Michael Scheuer's book "Through Our Enemy's Eyes" (pp. 217) lists an "August 29, 2000" arrest of ASK by ISI forces in relation to the embassy bombing. Sherurcij (Speaker for the Dead) 20:56, 15 May 2008 (UTC)
