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Contents 1 Original Research 2 Smith's Revelation/Prophecy 3 Smith absorbtion question 4 Picture 5 Contradiction 6 Removal of 'Online' section

[edit] Original Research

The article is fascinating, but the whole thing smacks of Original Research. Are these conclusions, influences and inferences actually documented somewhere, or created for this page? If they can be sourced they should be, if not they should be removed.

Reviewing the archive, this is not the first time the article has been tagged, nor were many of those concerns addressed. Please do not remove the tag without either sourcing the claims or providing a rationale here why they are not OR. --Chancemichaels 20:20, 10 October 2007 (UTC)Chancemichaels

I agree, there's a lot of interpretation going on here. An ordinary viewer watching the movie would be hard pressed to come to any of these conclusions about the fight between Neo and Agent Smith. --71.202.181.84 (talk) 21:52, 28 April 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Smith's Revelation/Prophecy

I was wondering if there was a specific source that stated Smith's powers of foresight came directly from absorbing the oracle, or if there was sufficient evidence to prove that did anything whatsoever to alter Smith's identity. I would instead suggest that Smith has falsely prophesied his own victory in an act of all too human arrogance, and that his final remark to Neo, where he fails to address him as "Mr. Anderson," is instead his realization of Neo as his equal, and despite all Neo's rational short-comings, Smith's recognition of Neo as a respected and worthy entity. 144.13.226.143 19:06, 18 October 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Smith absorbtion question

What happens to the humans who were overtaken by agent Smith? Do they die or just regress into a deep sleep or something? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Murakumo-Elite (talk • contribs) 08:21, 22 December 2007 (UTC)

IMO, the overtaking of the entire matrix by Smith was the way for the system to be rebooted without any human who was "plugged in" noticing. As far as I know, the human host was in a coma-like state until either the agent left the body, or the agent was killed (which had not ever happened until the appearance of the One). 65.248.164.214 (talk) 21:42, 18 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Picture

I think the picture (Image:Smithposter.jpg from Matrix Revolutions) is not optimal. Could someone perhaps provide a screencapture from one of the Matrix films? I think it's not really necessary to show multiple Smiths, just a full-length shot of him to illustrate what he looks like. -- Lea (talk) 04:57, 31 January 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Contradiction

In the Against the Anomaly section it says "This is the only time that Smith does not call him "Mr. Anderson" to his face" while at the end of the Stylistic Geneology section it includes "He calls him 'Neo' only once in each part of the trilogy. (The first time when he is interviewing Neo about his double life" which is a face-to-face encounter as well.Penguinwithin (talk) 02:24, 24 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Removal of 'Online' section

Why was the section about Smith's role in The Matrix Online removed? I thought it would have been relevant, considering most of the other characters have info about their roles on The Matrix Online. Ggctuk (talk) 13:30, 28 April 2008 (UTC)

Its only for a anniversery purpouse agent smith was totally deleted during the third movie. Hes gone accept it. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 217.21.232.253 (talk) 07:53, 7 May 2008 (UTC)

Um, excuse me for pointing this out, but the Neo info on his page is far less informative of his status and not relevant after the Race to Find the One event, but that's still there. If we went and got rid of every article that held appearances like that then Wikipedia would have very short articles. All I ask is that the information be checked and IMPROVED UPON. Don't delete anything without reasonable cause (hes gone doesn't sound like reasonable cause) Ggctuk (talk) 09:51, 7 May 2008 (UTC)

then i will take away the part about neo in the matrix online as well. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 213.65.173.56 (talk) 12:07, 7 May 2008 (UTC)

All I will say is, prepare for revert wars. I nominate the article to be locked before that happens. Ggctuk (talk) 07:45, 8 May 2008 (UTC)