Talk:Age of Empires II: The Conquerors
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[edit] Unofficial patches
As i know there are only 1.0d, 1.0e and 1.0e Final. Someone have information or/and download link for 1.0f? This version really exist? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 84.10.9.188 (talk) 19:50, 24 May 2008 (UTC)
[edit] Militia units with ranged attack?
I recall in the sandbox mode, there is a militia unit that acts like a ranged horse archer. The avatar is of a horse archer and when the unit swings it's club to attack, a spear flys out. The unit is also very fast. It's in the sandbox/scenario editor but is not mentioned in any article or online guide so far.
Whats is this unit really?
-G —Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.24.150.114 (talk) 00:06, 12 May 2008 (UTC)
- Jinete may (or may not) clear something up - the article is right, but a bit of a stub. As it says - in early stages of development it was planned as the Spanish UU; it got replaced by the Conquistador at a later stage so it now stands as a unit only available in custom scenarios. Thanks for pointing it out. Coanda-1910 (talk) 06:54, 13 May 2008 (UTC)
It's called a Genitour on my version. I always wondered what it was meant to be. At last I know. :)
Coanda-1910, you're right. I added info about Genitour appearance in TC to Jinete article (from what i know that Genitour is other spelling of Jinete), and someone (thanks for him!) added this info to this article. About verifiable of this information... First i find this info in the Genie Wiki (http://www.digitization.org/wiki/index.php, they have some information about Pre releases), after this i find information about Genitour=Jinete and see Jinetes from other games (Total War, etc), finally i added this info to the Jinete article. Genitour/Elite Genitour in final game is Militia unit with Cavarly Icon icon and Skirmisher (or Elite Skirmisher) missile. Normally unhidden only in patched version of The Conquerors (1.0c), in unpatched don't available via editor (must be unlocked by Genie, or something)... Called Genitour/Elite Genitour in The Conquerors, in official Polish version (by Cenega) it's Jeździec/Elitarny Jeździec (ugly translation).
[edit] Aoe2 advice
Found this link on MSN search: http://www.salamyhkaiset.org/aoe2/ There seems to be strategies to use in the game so how about we add the link to the list?
[edit] Unclear statement?
"The Mayan unique unit, the Plumed Archer is faster, with better pierce armor, stronger (except chu ko nu), and has a higher rate of fire than all other archers" Except for chu ko nu? What does that mean? Chu Ko Nus are not stronger than plumed archers. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 83.226.236.27 (talk) 15:24, 2 February 2007 (UTC).
They fire more slowly. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 78.16.23.49 (talk) 16:03, 18 May 2008 (UTC)
[edit] Zone Alternatives
Please stop removing the link to Gamespy, Gamepark and IGZ. If you have additional communities to add, please feel free to do so. But please do NOT remove all other links but one, because you are member of this community. This is wikipedia, not a place for advertisements and pointless flamewars. I have corrected this, because it was changed my times in the past.
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Yes I agree, that is why I just fixed the article, to include the latest patch 1.0e, I put IGZones back in, removed the extinct zones like EL and vetev, and removed the false history that someone had wrote about them, obviously someone who wasn't involved in the project. I also put external link to Gamepark and IGZ. However, it should be noted that the Largest Age of Conquerors server is indeed IGZones.com and therefore it should be promoted better for players to find more players. However, all the zones should be included in external links. Arsenic99 19:55, 31 July 2007 (UTC)
--- Wikipedia is not a place for projects to "promote" themselves - This is a page about the game itself and not a page for the promotion of third-party projects such as IGZone and Gamepark.
66.31.51.167 20:04, 31 July 2007 (UTC)
- Sorry, this IS a place to promote useful knowledge related to the game. 71.37.63.213 (talk) 22:38, 13 January 2008 (UTC)
[edit] Wonders
There's a section of wonders for with links to the actual buildings they're based on for the Age of Kings page, but there is none for the expansion pack.
If somebody wants to help compile a list of links to the structures the Wonders in the game are based on, we can put it all up on the page.
So far, all I know is:
Spain - Torre del Oro
Huns - Some old ruin from the Roman Empire
Koreans - The Tower of Heaven or something
and for the Mayans and Aztecs, I have no idea what specific pyramids their wonders are based on.
The Hunnic wonder listed here cannot be the Siegestor, since it was built in 1852, long after the Huns had vanished and outside Age2's time period. I would argue it has to be either a generic ruined triumphal arch or the large Arch of Augustus, at Rome, which was destroyed sometime after the city was ransacked and had the general layout of the arch seen here.FareedMcLure (talk) 20:12, 6 April 2008 (UTC)
- Mayans - The temple at El Mirador
- Aztecs - Templo Mayor (the Great Temple) in Tenochtitlan
- Spain - Torre del Oro, as stated.
- Koreans - unknown; I can't find any reference to a "tower of heaven."
- Huns - I can't find any specific building it's based on. Is it possible that these two were based on generic architectural styles? Coanda-1910 (talk) 00:31, 5 April 2008 (UTC)
- Coanda-You might try looking at the actual article before posting. The Mayan wonder is very obviously not the La Danta temple at El Mirador (I am assuming your vague reference here was to La Danta), but one from the Tikal site. Which one at Tikal is up for dispute, but I would argue it resembles much more closely the Temple of the Great Jaguar than the Temple of Masks. FareedMcLure (talk) 20:12, 6 April 2008 (UTC)
- I most certainly am not referring to La Danta, as that is nothing like the wonder pictured in Conquerors. However, if you look at 1, you will clearly see exactly the wonder pictured in Conquerors, in a picture of El Mirador. The asymmetric slope is the distinguishing feature by which we can tell that El Mirador, rather than say the Temple of the Great Jaguar, is the temple modeled on - it rises more gradually on the staircase side and more steeply on the opposite side, something not seen in the Temple of the Great Jaguar. Coanda-1910 (talk) 20:55, 6 April 2008 (UTC)
- Coanda-You might try looking at the actual article before posting. The Mayan wonder is very obviously not the La Danta temple at El Mirador (I am assuming your vague reference here was to La Danta), but one from the Tikal site. Which one at Tikal is up for dispute, but I would argue it resembles much more closely the Temple of the Great Jaguar than the Temple of Masks. FareedMcLure (talk) 20:12, 6 April 2008 (UTC)
[edit] Soundtrack
This page states that track 7 is called "Mountain Lie On", wheras the "More Music From The Ages" CD I own calls the same track "Seamus And Chamois". Also, track 9 is listed here as "Roi-r!" wheras the "More Music From The Ages" CD calls the track "Basura, Basura". I don't have the collector's edition, so is there any way to sort out which one is correct?
[edit] Montezuma
This article lists Montezuma as a hero unit in the game, however he is not in the scenario editor nor have I ever encountered him in the campagnes, even with cheats! If no one can bring proof that he exists in the game I will remove that clause. - Comrade Graham
[edit] Fair use rationale for Image:AoKx screenshot.jpg
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[edit] Fair use rationale for Image:Age of Empires 2 Screenshot.jpg
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- Done. dihydrogen monoxide (H20) 10:06, 12 February 2008 (UTC)
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[edit] Historical accuracy of campaigns?
Specifically, El Cid mission two places El Cid seizing Toledo for Alfonso. However, El Cid was exiled in 1081, and Alfonso took control of Toledo in 1085. It's possible that mission 2 is creative license, or it's possible that El Cid never actually attacked Toledo - does someone with a little more time or knowledge of the history there want to clarify? (I only ran into this because I was curious if there was an actual Imam the Imam in the game is based on) Coanda-1910 (talk) 07:41, 6 April 2008 (UTC)
[edit] Display game cheats?
Is it allowed/legal/okay to publish official cheats in Wikipedia relating to AoeII? Some cheats I am currently aware of are (you have to press Enter during gameplay, enter the words into the box and press enter again): blackdeath - kills all opponent units, irwinner - lets you win the game, cheese steak jimmy's - gives you 1000 food, robinhood - gives you 1000 gold, rock on - gives you 1000 stone, lumberjack - gives you 1000 wood.
Thankyou, Shane (talk) 17:40, 18 April 2008 (UTC)
- Standard practice says no - Wikipedia:WikiProject_Video_games/Article_guidelines. It's allowed and legal, but it's mildly frowned upon. Is there a particular reason to add AOE2 cheats? Coanda-1910 (talk) 18:46, 18 April 2008 (UTC)
- Yes, this information would be very helpful to the reader. If a reader wanted to find this information, perhaps they could try an internet search, but they are more likely to call up an expensive premium-rate cheatline. They would be far better off getting this information from a reliable encyclopedia, and the chances are they would find out about these cheats even before they buy the game (though I'm not sure if AoEII is still being retailed).
Thankyou again, Shane (talk) 22:16, 18 April 2008 (UTC).
