Talk:Africanis

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added by permission from Johan Gallant [gallant@iafrica.com], author of the book The Story of the African Dog - University of Kwazulu-Natal Press - ISBN 1 86914-024-9 (per Tbjornstad 08:36, 5 October 2005 (UTC))

I've just sent this email to specified address:

John: An anoymous user has added text from your book to the Wikipedia online public-domain encyclopedia with this note:

added by permission from Johan Gallant [gallant@iafrica.com], author of the book The Story of the African Dog - University of Kwazulu-Natal Press - ISBN 1 86914-024-9

The text currently appears at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Africanis

I need to confirm that, by permission, you mean that it's released either into the public domain or under the Gnu Free Documentation License, which is what all Wikipedia text is licensed under. You can read more about it at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GFDL

Thanks for letting us know.

(I'm just one of thousands of volunteers on this project & I'm just trying to make sure that this isn't copyrighted material that you wouldn't want propagated or used elsewhere.)

Elf | Talk 21:58, 4 October 2005 (UTC)

Here's his response--not clear on the public domain or GFDL, but that info is in my query, soo-----

Hello Ellen

Thankls for your message.

Tom Bjornstad requested information on the Africanis from me for Wikipedia.

I sent him text + photographs which may be published

Kind regards

Johan GALLANT

author

The Story of the African Dog

University of Kwazulu-Natal Press ISBN 1-86914-024-9 books@ukzn.ac.za

Africanis Society of Southern Africa

http://www.sa-breeders.co.za/org/africanis

Elf | Talk 15:52, 7 October 2005 (UTC)

The information given in the article is Public Domain, but the pictures were not, so I din't upload to Commons. We may use them freely on Wikipedia though, but not elsewhere. If English Wiki have a licence they can use, go download the pictures from no:Africanis. - Tbjornstad 10:58, 26 March 2006 (UTC)

The article claims that "There is ample evidence that no canine domestication took place in Africa" which is in fact contradicted by other articles in this category as well as by written evidence, and archaeological evidence. Doc Meroe 21:32, 15 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Info Box

I was trying to update the info box, but my info didn't compe up. Why? Patricknoddy 2:52pm January 5, 2006 (EDT)

As it says at the top of the page when you edit it, See: Wikipedia:WikiProject_Dog_breeds#Infobox_Dogbreed_template for full explanation of the syntax used in this template. In wikipedia, templates have a predefined list of items that you can include. The dog breeds project has a very specific list of what it considers to be the major English-language kennel clubs, which are represented in the template. If you'd like to open this dicussion again (not sure it ever entirely closed) about how to choose what to list in the breed box, feel free to do so on the talk page for the WikiProject. And note that the breed standard is already listed in the external links. If you have any questions, you can contact me on my user talk page, although I sometimes don't check back for a couple of days. Elf | Talk 20:58, 6 January 2006 (UTC)

The external link 'breed standard' does not work. It leads to a page where you have to log in.

Addressed to "Elf" and TBjornstad. These dogs, Africanis etc, please note they are not "breeds", they are not Sighthounds in any sense of the classic use of gazehound, greyhound etc. This category "Sighthound" has obviously become a List Farm. Some of the names are of historic, defunct, even non-existent breeds. The editors need to consider precisely what the difference is between Hound and Sighthound. Wikipedia should reflect reality, not create its own assumed "reality". In all cases where the use and function define a type, variety or breed - and that is always the case with hunting dogs or hounds - then the original use should be clearly provided and it should be verifiable. Please address these problems, such as the incongruity of having the Rhodesian Ridgeback and Podenco/Ibizan Hound in both the Scent Hound and Sighthound categories.

Furthermore, all hounds have a local origin, a Country Of Origin, consider the Saluki, Afghan, English Greyhound, Rampur, Borzoi, Chart Polski,etc. which makes your category of "Aboriginal dog" suspect. There is no national Kennel Club that makes that distinction, it is a non-existent and spurious category. Please reflect on exactly what you are doing and inform yourselves with the real facts, the real history. Thank you. --Richard Hawkins 15:01, 13 July 2006 (UTC)