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Contents 1 Vegan Restaurants, African American Topics? 2 Drama 3 Spelling of name 4 African American Topics? 5 Polygamy vs. Polygyny 6 Remove Reference of Polygamy!!!!!! 7 name of this group

[edit] Vegan Restaurants, African American Topics?

The vegan restaurants are located in the United States, not Israel- and are delicious. They have several communities here as well, i think the big one is in Chicago??. If i were a wikipedia editor, I'd call Soul Veg in Atlanta for more info. they also have a website... 68.14.108.173 23:50, 4 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Drama

Removed:

The group rejects the Talmud and the idea that Judaism is passed down through a person's mother. They also believe that modern-day Jews are not the descendants of the Twelve Tribes of Israel, and that modern day Jews have stolen the religion, language and culture of the "true Jews" drawing parallels to both cults and Christian Identity movement.

as I could find no evidence of this.Harrypotter 21:20, 6 February 2006 (UTC)

well do more research on them cuz ur an idiot, they do believe all that. they think modern white jews are from khazar -- The preceding unsigned comment was added by Deananoby2 on August 17, 2006

Could you prove that ? I don't find anything about this idea. Christophe Cagé. 24 june 2007.

I've rewritten the (previously restored) passage in language more suitable to an encyclopedia. However, the suggested mention of the Khazars in particular would require a citation I don't have. (Noted on Deananoby2's Talk page.) -- 00:43, 22 April 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Spelling of name

The book "God, the Black Man, and Truth" has the author's name spelled "Ben Ammi." Why is it being spelled "Ben Ami" here? Badagnani 12:29, 22 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] African American Topics?

How exactly is this an African American topic if they are in Israel? Chooserr 07:02, 4 December 2006 (UTC)

According to the page's Edit summary of YegerMeister on April 21, 2007: "This topic is an Afriacn-American, as are all the members of this group." While ensuing generations have been born in Israel, the African-American identity of leader and entire founding generation may be viewed as a key feature of this religious group, regardless of its overseas location. -- Deborahjay 20:36, 23 April 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Polygamy vs. Polygyny

In a recent cleanup edit of the page, I'd moved the sentence "They practice polygamy" under the heading of Religious beliefs from its previous location in the initial paragraph—where it struck me as sensationalistic and out of place for an encyclopedia article. I also rewrote it as "polygyny," in keeping with what I understand of the community (i.e. that men may take multiple wives but not the reverse). However, I was unable to provide a citation for this, and Wikipedia disallows original research. Therefore, when reverting another's removal of this content, I restored "polygamy" as consistent with the originally cited source. This may require further checking. -- Deborahjay 15:10, 23 April 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Remove Reference of Polygamy!!!!!!

Its so random, why add a random sentence that when removed doesnt make the paragraph look akward and not add the other information. I believe author trying to make the group look bad... —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Deananoby2 (talk • contribs) 19:25, 23 April 2007 (UTC).

You are mistaken in two points:

• The sentence about polygamy is by no means random: it had been written on the page in an earlier edit, complete with a citation from a web source. The move under a heading is explained above.
• This accusation that "[the] author [is] trying to make the group look bad" is unfounded. The material in this article has been written from a neutral point of view, citations of sources are included, and numerous editors have contributed to it. Polygamy is, unless proven otherwise, an accurate point of information about this group, and belongs in a description of its beliefs and practices. No value judgment is implied (except in your comment here).
  

The page's Edit history shows that you have repeatedly removed the polygamy content despite the fact that it's accompanied by a citation. An editor having sourced knowledge of contradicting facts can cite those and edit according to Wikipedia policy. Until such information is provided, removing this text is inappropriate and will be reverted. -- Deborahjay 20:24, 23 April 2007 (UTC)

w/e, all i was the sentence was random, and it was! Mention of polygamy but no mention of birth control forbidden? but sentence aint so random now, so i win.....

[edit] name of this group

I have never heard anyone use the name "African Hebrew Israelites of Jerusalem." They are known in Israel as the Black Hebrews (or the Black Hebrews of Dimona). The official name may be "Original African Hebrew Israelite Nation of Jerusalem," but I still think the name of the article should be Black Hebrews.--Gilabrand 07:34, 11 July 2007 (UTC)