Talk:African American music

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[edit] This Page Must Be Deleted

This page must be deleted because the writer doesn't understand the difference between culture, race and racial prejudice. The reason the word culture does not relate to race is because there would have to be someone to dictate to their race what their culture is or is not without the opinion of the entire race(eliminating individuality); in other words if someone of a certain race created a genre of music and even though everyone of the same race (of the person that started the genre) hated this genre they would still be associated by this genre racially.

This is a form of racial segregation as well, which is racism and will not be tolerated on the Wikipedia. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Mark667 (talk • contribs) 03:36, 5 September 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Concert music

This article is well thought-out, but could elaborate on the music associated with the elite concert format as well (William Grant Still is a good example)--more could be said about the gradual elite appropriation of jazz throughout the 20th century. There is also some inaccurate information. For example, polyphonic music (music that features the simultaneous presence of two or more melodic lines) was not a feature common to the areas of African from which slaves were taken---polyrhythmic and polymetric music, however, is a highly wide-spread feature of sub-Saharan African music. Also, Scott Joplin's ragtime (and ragtime in general) was out of vogue by the end of WWI, and by the time of Harlem Renaissance, jazz (of which ragtime was an ancestor) was rapidly gaining ascendancy across the United States, and certainly among black intellectuals. Finally, more can be said about the pervasiveness of features common to sub-Saharan African music in music cultivated by many African Americans musicians through the present day: cyclical repetition with subtle variations as the music progresses, emphasis on percussion instruments and strong rhythmic pulse, heavy syncopation, greater emphasis on group performance and closer integration of music and daily life (which contributes to the perception that many blacks are "musical"). [musicus 26 July]

[edit] Talk:Country music#Negro spirituals

Anybody who is interested in this article may also be interested in the discussion at Talk:Country music#"Negro spirituals". Tuf-Kat 20:37, Jun 12, 2005 (UTC)

Yes, it seems like you want to let slip the dogs of war on your side. It is proof that you are Afrocentric, by coming here for POV support in numbers. I am watching your every move! ScapegoatVandal 14:04, 13 Jun 2005 (UTC)

Feel free to search for supporters at talk:white supremacy or whatever, if you like. Tuf-Kat 14:28, Jun 13, 2005 (UTC)

This is exactly what I had predicted. You do have the POV button on firm pressure. ScapegoatVandal 14:32, 13 Jun 2005 (UTC)

[edit] First black classical piece performed by major orchestra

The African American music article states that "The first Symphony by a "black" composer to be performed by a major orchestra was William Grant Still's Afro-American Symphony with the New York Philharmonic." According to my research, the first black composer work, by Samuel Coleridge-Taylor, was performed by the Chicago Symphony in 1899. (Source: <http://astro.temple.edu/~rgreene/BlackComp>

[edit] Contemporary popular music

I think this article could use some info about the overwhelming influence of black music on contemporary popular music. Whatever you hear on the radio would NEVER have happened without the blues!

This article's not exactly in great shape, but that's pretty much what it is about, AFAICT. It needs expansion on folk music and dance, theater, classical music (needs expansion everywhere really, but those topics are worse off right now). Tuf-Kat 22:54, 6 April 2006 (UTC)

[edit] small problem

"The end of the 20th century and the dawn of the new millenum brought us some of the most mundane and uninspired African American music."

That statement is incredibly opinionated. It should be taken out.

[edit] Where is the basis for this?

"African American genres are the most important ethnic vernacular tradition in America as they have developed independent of African traditions from which they arise more so than any other immigrant groups, including Europeans; make up the broadest and longest lasting range of styles in America; and have, historically, been more influential, interculturally, geographically, and economically, than other American vernacular traditions"

I personally agree with a good deal of this sentiment, but I find it lacks any citation, and even if citation were present, is completely subjective in nature. In addition, stylistically I find it unclear and overly punctuated. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 69.181.125.204 (talk) 23:47, 13 February 2007 (UTC).

I agree and have tried to clear it up some. 69.153.100.127 20:37, 30 October 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Merge

Yes to merge Decoratrix 13:47, 31 May 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Jimi Hendrix

How come Jimi Hendrix, one of the greatest musicians ever, isn't even named on the article? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 190.17.126.112 (talk) 23:15, 8 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Afro-Caribbean music?

Why does Afro-Caribbean music redirect here? There's not really anything in this article about it. Anchoress · Weigh Anchor · Catacomb 07:35, 30 March 2008 (UTC)