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Contents 1 Before Editing 1.1 Archive 2 Page Discussion 2.1 Lists Corrected 2.2 Trivia 2.3 What's Up? 2.4 Joan Crawford 2.5 Terminator[1] !== Terminator[2]

[edit] Before Editing

• Please DO NOT discuss the list or argue about changing it on the Talk Page.
• Please DO NOT edit the list to represent your personal feeling about the Best Villian/Hero.
• Please DO NOT change the actors or films to the characters most recent appearence. The official list has set films and actors.

[edit] Archive

• Archive 1

[edit] Page Discussion

[edit] Lists Corrected

Certain people have been playing around with the order of the lists, and so I have corrected the order and re-started the discussion of this page, please note this is not a fourm for discussing the order of the list. Take any challenges up with the people at AFI! :)

Gavin Scott 02:27, 1 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Trivia

Trivia section removed per, Wikipedia:Avoid trivia sections Gavin Scott 06:00, 11 August 2007 (UTC)

"trivia" should be changed to "did you know" or something like that. "GET SOME" 19:21, 28 August 2007 (UTC)

[edit] What's Up?

This has got to be the most non scary list of villains I've ever seen. Most of the villains are from kids movies that aren't that scary at all. Michael Myers from Halloween should be on there along with Jason Voorhees. "GET SOME" 19:20, 28 August 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Joan Crawford

Joan Crawford is in the Villains section. By clicking on her name you go to her Wikipedia entry that reads:

Joan Crawford (March 23, 1905 or 1908 – May 10, 1977), [1] [2] was an acclaimed, iconic, Academy Award-winning American actress, arguably one of the greatest from the Golden Age of Hollywood from the 1920s through 1940s. The American Film Institute named Crawford among the Greatest Female Stars of All Time, ranking her at number ten.

Why then is she on the Villains list ??? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 89.40.223.31 (talk) 15:48, August 29, 2007 (UTC)

Try looking at Mommie Dearest (film) and you'll understand why Joan Crawford is on AFI's list. -Phoenixrod 06:05, 3 September 2007 (UTC)

I did. And found: Awards and nominations * Golden Raspberry Awards

   Won: Worst Picture
   Won: Worst Screenplay
   Won: Worst Actress (Faye Dunaway)
   Won: Worst Supporting Actor (Steve Forrest)
   Won: Worst Supporting Actress (Diana Scarwid)
   Won: Razzie Award for Worst Picture of the Decade (1980s)  —Preceding unsigned comment added by Kondo (talk • contribs) 10:23, 3 September 2007 (UTC) 

Its the character NOT the actor who is being put in these lists, being a top villain is an achievement.Gavin Scott 18:52, 3 September 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Terminator[1] !== Terminator[2]

I edited the statement about "same character" under "actors" to say "identical characters", as the terminators were different copies of the same model. Does anybody have a better way of stating that? ... this was the best I could come up with. Davidyorke (talk) 07:01, 6 June 2008 (UTC)