Talk:Aesthetics of music
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[edit] Bias
biased.. I'll edit it in the morning
- Sprafa
- How is it biased? Hyacinth 01:46, 15 Apr 2005 (UTC)
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- There really have to be contemporary viewpoints on musical aesthetics other than the single one presented here, and its focus on "bad music." Is good music simply music that avoids being bad, by the tests described? --Christofurio 04:14, July 30, 2005 (UTC)
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- The section on bad music does not describe tests of good or bad music, it describes the connection between aesthetics and ethics in popular music. Hyacinth 17:57, 14 August 2007 (UTC)
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This article needs to be re-written from scratch. There is a wealth of literature written on this topic and almost none of it is addressed. The intro very subjectively written, and the section on 'Bad Music' simply doesn't belong in an encyclopedia entry about the Aesthetics of music. Or in an encyclopedia at all for that matter. I will re-write when I'm less busy (probably in a week or two) unless someone else feels like giving it a go first. Jmejia 18:38, 5 January 2006 (UTC)
Although I believe this article is far form perfect, I think the section about "bad music" SHOULD be included.
- Please sign your posts on talk pages per Wikipedia:Sign your posts on talk pages. Thanks! Hyacinth 17:31, 14 August 2007 (UTC)
[edit] New list
I have created list of aesthetic principles of music. Input welcome, including ideas for a better title. Tuf-Kat 02:35, 6 July 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Walter Pater
Pater died in 1894, so hardly qualifies as a twentieth-century writer. I also would not call him a modernist. Did the person who wrote this section know what they were talking about? 2006-12-04.
do we really need this article? Blueaster 17:29, 19 December 2006 (UTC)
- I confess. I wrote most of the stuff of which you're complaining. Before I began to work on it, this article was almost entirely a jokey thing about "bad music." I tried to take an historical approach, focusing on philosophic views of the relationship between music and the other arts over the centuries.
- And yes, I submit that I do know what I'm talking about. For a book-length argument that Pater was a proto-modernist, see
Walter Pater: Lover of Strange Souls, by Denis Donoghue, for example.
- And yes, we need this article: much more than we need, say, a few more articles about the walk-on characters in Star Trek episodes. I'd be happy to have it improved upon. --Christofurio 04:27, 31 January 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Bad music
The bad music section is neither jokey nor unencyclopedic. It provides a sociological viewpoint regarding the aesthetics of popular music, in a serious tone, and thus ensures that this article will be NPOV. Hyacinth 17:48, 14 August 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Worldwide view
How does this article not represent a worldwide view? Hyacinth 19:47, 14 August 2007 (UTC)
- The article only describes aesthetics in European classical and American popular music. Aesthetics in other traditions that could easily be described include Arabic and Persian musics, Chinese music, and Indian classical music. Hyacinth 19:47, 14 August 2007 (UTC)
Talking to yourself? That's not a good sign... :P Anyway, I agree with your second post. Perhaps we could recruit an expert (ethnomusicologist?) to expand the article? NightfyreX 03:50, 26 September 2007 (UTC)
