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Contents 1 Merge into Military aviation 2 General Talk 3 Needs Work. 4 Incorrect 5 U2 6 How Enterprising 7 Bad coverage 8 Let's Fly a Kite? 9 Chinese Lanterns 10 Aerial Warfare 11 Hezbollah Drone 12 Lebanon War 2006

[edit] Merge into Military aviation

In my oppinion aerial warfare is a subset of military aviation. Military aviation is the larger set, because it includes operations in peacetimes. 81.221.156.100 13:31, 13 June 2006 (UTC)

Please Discuss this on the Military avaiation talk page to keep things tidy.

[edit] General Talk

Just made a start on this. Please feel free to add. DJ Clayworth 19:38, 25 Mar 2004 (UTC)

Fine with me. I just started "air war" a few minutes ago!Doovinator 19:49, 25 Mar 2004 (UTC)

I thought Coral Sea was the first sea battle fought entirely by aircraft, not Midway. It was certainly earlier. PatGallacher 11:40, 2005 Jun 5 (UTC)

Just to say that some of the stuff written here is wild generalisation. If you're reading this, please don't take it seriously. DJ Clayworth 22:03, 3 November 2005 (UTC)

What about the Battle of Adrianople (1913) It is known that aeroplanes were used by the Bulgarians --86.101.163.165 14:33, 24 January 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Needs Work.

Lots of it. Far too general. Guapovia 22:32, 28 January 2006 (UTC)

Suggestion: Three sections in each sub section: Observation, Fighter, and Bombing Missions. Can be used to comment on the individual changes in aerial strategy.

[edit] Incorrect

This line was removed from the article. Everything about it is inaccurate including the link at the end. There are many web sites that are reporting inaccurate informatioin about hot air balloons in the Civil War. The Union Army used gas filled balloons.

The Union Balloon Corps, with seven balloons including the Enterprise, was run by Thaddeus Lowe who developed a system of gas pumps to inflate his balloons in the field.[1]

Magi Media 14:05, 23 February 2006 (UTC)Magi Media

[edit] U2

The line "The U-2 at its time was supposed to be invulnerable to defensive measures, due to its extreme altitude. It therefore came as a great shock when the Soviets downed one piloted by Gary Powers with a ground-to-air missile." is not really true. The CIA (who operated the flights) and indeed Eisenhower, always knew that it was just a matter of time until the Soviets developed a method to shoot down the U-2s. Even the manufacturer, Lockheed, expected it, and so began work on the next generation of spy planes (namely the Sr-71) in anticipation. The "great shock" was that the timing of the downing, which cam just before the paris peace conference and contributed to the sense of cold war between the USA and USSR. --Corinthian 00:04, 8 June 2006 (UTC)

I agree - I've removed the "great shock" phrase 139.133.7.38 05:02, 19 May 2007 (UTC)

[edit] How Enterprising

I don't know if it's a coincidence or what, but the major balloon used in the Battle of Fleurus by the French was l'entreprenant. I'm sure Lowe read about it, and his wife Leontine was French. But their first big balloon they saved up for and built was the Enterprise which is the closest translation to the French name. Maybe not so coincidental.--Magi Media 01:39, 27 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Bad coverage

• This article is totally missing the sense and use of miltary air lift capacity and capability as was so critical in so many theatures and conflicts (re: General William H. Tunner), not to mention airborne operations and today's air cavalry. // FrankB 20:22, 19 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Let's Fly a Kite?

I just have one question on the validity of the rather short and blunt section about China flying kites for reconaissance missions. How does that work? They didn't have any cameras, sensors, or PEOPLE on board the kite, so how can this be true?

When did that actually happen, anyway? Is there a source?

AceFighterPilot 00:28, 4 May 2007 (UTC)

Yes, is there any evidence for this? 139.133.7.38 05:06, 19 May 2007 (UTC)

Yes, there is evidence. See this version and Buckley pp.22-23.

[edit] Chinese Lanterns

Does a floating Chinese lantern really qualify as aerial warfare? 139.133.7.38 04:59, 19 May 2007 (UTC)

If it is used as a signaling device to friendly troops—yes, but I haven't found any evidence for this use. In this version of the article, you can find the reference to Boyne p.370, but he only make a very brief reference to "reports" of balloons being used in Ancient China.--Mumia-w-18 (talk) 13:52, 21 December 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Aerial Warfare

If I may humbly point out, this article appears to be more on the History of Aerial warfare then the actual aerial warfare in the tactics, operational and strategic sense. For example I was surprised to find that Patrol Area, one of the basic aerial warfare concepts since WWI redlinked on me, and I can find no other article to point to, with Combat Air Patrol also missing. -- mrg3105mrg3105 04:19, 3 January 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Hezbollah Drone

Any sources? 76.98.0.36 (talk) 00:37, 11 January 2008 (UTC)pkmilitia

Yes, I just added a couple of references.--Mumia-w-18 (talk) 04:02, 11 January 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Lebanon War 2006

Israel started Lebanon war 2006 by an intensive aerial campaign aimed to eliminate Hezbollah and destroy all its capabilities as stated by israeli prime minister. It also aimed to return the kidnapped soldiers. The campaign started by destroying lebanese infrastructure and Hezbollah targets. This continued during the 33 days of the war. The importance of this war to the history of aerial campaigns lies in the fact that its the first war in the modern history that didn't reach its goals through the use of air force. Taking into consideration the results of 1990 and 2003 wars on iraq and 1998 war on former yogoslavia, the israeli air force which is one of the strongest in the world couldn't reach the set goals. This lies on the military doctrine that Hezbollah used in the war which proved effective in facing such kinds of wars. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 134.28.38.171 (talk) 08:47, 22 April 2008 (UTC)