User talk:Aepoutre

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[edit] Conflict of interest

Do you consider it a conflict of interest that you work in the admissions department of Eastern Nazarene College, and regularly edit its wikipedia article, as well as the wikipedia article for Gordon, rival of ENC? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.19.43.204 (talk) 03:39, 9 March 2008 (UTC)

I think it would be nice for someone concerned about the accuracy of information on Wikipedia to take a moment and create an account. That way there can be a discussion, instead of a one way dialog. When it comes to people with ties to a particular page - should the information they contribute be looked at for accuracy, sure - but I think it's pretty clear from the depth and breadth of aepoutre's contributions that he is here to be a valued contributor of accurate information. That's just my 2cents --Nwdguy (talk) 18:14, 10 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Fenway

I think that fenway should redirect to fenway park, as it is the most common usage of the term. The link to the disambiguation page is already on the top of the fenway article. Feel free to add colleges of the fenway to the disambiguation page if you want. But just remember that the Boston area is officially Fenway-Kenmore. Black Harry (T|C) 16:01, 23 May 2007 (UTC)

No problem, also not if you are looking for the Fenway part of Boston, its under the article the Fenway Black Harry (T|C) 16:23, 23 May 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Eastern Nazarene College

I don't think it's weird at all, you asking me about the article; after all, I'm the one who stuck my nose into it and put the ad tag on there. The main thing you want is for it to read like an encyclopedia entry: just the facts without too much minutiae (a little bit for some flavor is OK). You should avoid stuff that reads like an enticement to go there (like the fact that it's 1/2 a mile away from the beach). I'd also suggest finding more mainstream reliable source references that talk about the school (has it ever been featured in The Globe?). BUT you don't want to puff up the piece with a bunch of facts that just fill space (for example: the list of schools the faculty went to—way too excessive; also the complete list of undergrad and adult study programs—that's the sort of thing that most people wouldn't need to know, and I'm sure it's easily available on the school's website, right?). I would recommend checking out articles about some of the really big schools and see what would translate well to ENC. Keep up the good work and happy editing! Closenplay 17:59, 25 May 2007 (UTC) PS Also, I'd try not to lean too heavily on that "Colleges of Distinction" site; don't know how much weight that information carries. Closenplay 18:19, 25 May 2007 (UTC)

In the time it's taken me to run errands and get home from work, you've done an incredible amount of editing. Since you're obviously on the right path, you don't need any more suggestions from me. I'll try and chip in with some minor format-type editing when I get a chance. Have a great weekend and enjoy the warm weather while we've got it. Closenplay 21:07, 25 May 2007 (UTC)

Two things I would recommend (contradicting what I wrote above): 1st, the opening paragraph gets really bogged down when it gets into the whole "region" thing. Perhaps pulling that chunk out and making it a section further down in the article? 2nd, I'm usually pretty brutal about culling "notable" people lists; the general rule of thumb is if the person isn't notable enough to have an article on Wikipedia, they aren't notable enough to include on the list. I'm not going to go through and delete names, and I could even see keeping some (CEO of the Y, for example) but you might want to examine that further (also, I'd go through the History department's list and grab the most notable ones and change that external link into a reference for those names). One other thing I noticed; the Lapham Institute article seems to contradict the history on the ENC page. It says that the Lapham campus (closed in 1876) reopened in 1902 as the Pentecostal Collegiate Institute (opposed to the ENC article which has the move to N. Scituate in 1918). If you don't have the Cameron books, and you want to seriously beef up this article, I'd recommend picking them up (I see they're both on Amazon). Or at least checking them out of the library and carefully sourcing everything you get out (incl. page #s). Oh, and while I'm bossing you around, if you or anyone you know could take some pictures of the campus (e.g. the main building, one of the dorms, inside the Coffee House, etc.), that would also be a major improvement. OK, I'm done telling you what to do; you're doing a great job without me, keep it up! Closenplay 12:22, 26 May 2007 (UTC)

I am an ENC alumnus who occasionally checks up on the ENC Wikipedia Article. I visited today, and was surprised to see that you have made hundreds of edits to the article. For the most part, I like the changes. It reads more like an encyclopedia article than it ever did before, which I can only assume is your doing. I'm curious, are you an alumnus of ENC, or do you represent the school in some official capacity? JephSullivan 20:39, 14 June 2007 (UTC)

I just have a quick comment on the comment made by Closenplay, he says you shouldn't put the enticing information about ENC up because it sounds like an ad, for example the distance from the beach. However, this serves to place the school in context, and provide location. What would be inappropriate would be saying something like "ENC has a beautiful campus, that is a short walk from a pristine beach". It's all about the language you use to describe the situation, ie the presentation of the facts. For example, University of California, Berkeley tells you how close it is to the Golden Gate bridge... Anyway great work so far, I looking forward to future edits of the article. Joseph J. Cox 18:04, 27 June 2007 (UTC)

For now I think the distance to the Atlantic Ocean is a fine measurement of the location. Also, I just realized my last comment may be construed as demeaning your understanding of COI issues, however I was just trying to clarify for those reading the talk page the issues at hand. Joseph J. Cox 18:23, 27 June 2007 (UTC)

[edit] List of Colleges in Boston

Yes, technically redlinks are too be removed, so when you de-linked Laboure College it was fine. I kept it redlinked because sometimes a person might see a redlink, and then try to create the page himself. However, I don't a problem with taking it off. And also, if you know of any other colleges in the area feel free to add them to the list. BH (Talk) 19:06, 6 June 2007 (UTC)

[edit] List of Taylor University People

Welcome to Wikipedia. It might not have been your intention, but your recent contribution removed content from List of Taylor University People. Please be more careful when editing articles and do not remove content from Wikipedia without a good reason, which should be specified in the edit summary. Take a look at the welcome page to learn more about contributing to this encyclopedia. If you would like to experiment again, please use the sandbox. Thank you.BsayUSD [Talk] [contribs] 17:27, 25 June 2007 (UTC)

I see what you're saying, the articles probably should be merged. Just make sure to put up the appropriate merge tags and get consensus. On the recent changes, it simply looked like you blanked the page without reason. Be sure to leave a descriptive comment in the edit summary next time. I'll look into getting the tags set up, but I'm swamped today, so if you get it set up first, then that's just fine. --BsayUSD [Talk] [contribs] 17:40, 25 June 2007 (UTC)

You may be interested in seeing if there is a wikiproject about colleges and universities, or joining a regional project that includes your alma mater. Don't let a few mistakes discourage you from editing. It takes some time to get into the swing of things here, stick with it. If you have any questions, feel free to ask me. I'm always happy to help. I did set up the merge tags. I suggest you put in your opinion on the merge on the Talk:Taylor University page, then look into the merge process at Help:Merging and moving pages. --BsayUSD [Talk] [contribs] 17:54, 25 June 2007 (UTC)

If it gets to be like Monday of next week, just do the merger. Instructions are here: Help:Merging_and_moving_pages#Performing_the_merger --BsayUSD [Talk] [contribs] 19:10, 27 June 2007 (UTC)

[edit] June 25, 2007

Hi, I noticed that you just blanked three pages without explanation. (1, 2, 3). I would ask that you refrain from doing so, or you face a potential block.

Also, I tagged the ENC article for poential conflict of interest, since here ((4) you admitted to being a paid employee of the college's admission department.

--Black Harry (Highlights|Contribs) 17:33, 25 June 2007 (UTC)

If you check ENC's talk I mentioned that I don't think anything you did on that article was wrong, its just listed for procedural purposes. Its just that it might be a good idea for someone to take a look at the page, to see if any POV things are going on. Many of your edits appear to be simply cleaning up the page, so I wouldn't worry editing it. Black Harry (Highlights|Contribs) 17:41, 25 June 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Categories

Please read WP:CAT and the categorization FAQ before deleting any more categories. Quoting the wikipedia policy on categories:

Every page in the article namespace should belong to at least one category. Categories should be major topics that are likely to be useful to someone reading the article.

If you have an issue with the category, you should find another category to place it in rather than deleting it. Categories are not meant to help people understand pages, they are meant to sort and organize pages. WLU 19:14, 27 June 2007 (UTC)

WP:ADOPT might be something of interest if you are looking to increase your learning curve. WLU 19:21, 27 June 2007 (UTC)

[edit] User page

Good to see you finally got yourself a user page! How's the editing been going? --BsayUSD [Talk] [contribs] 19:52, 29 June 2007 (UTC)

I'm doing rather well. Mainly I've just been looking at the recent changes. It's interesting some of the things that I find on there. Not too much vandalism, which is nice. Now I get a chance to "relax" (I talk like editing wiki is my job or something). --BsayUSD [Talk] [contribs] 20:01, 29 June 2007 (UTC)

Oh, hey sorry about that... Joseph J. Cox 01:28, 5 July 2007 (UTC)

[edit] ENC Website

Have you considered writing content (the design work is basically done) for the ENC website, it needs people who are motivated like you. There are allot of facts that are either incorrect there or are outdated, your work on wikipedia is superb, and it would be great if you could do a similar clean-up of the website. Joseph J. Cox 01:35, 25 July 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Philly Naz

Thanks for the Naz info. I never knew about the regions. I'll follow up with them once I get the time. Waarmstr 13:20, 25 July 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Merge

Good to see the merge happening! YAY! --BsayUSD [Talk]π[contribs] 15:27, 7 August 2007 (UTC)

Haha, thanks for the link to the guide. It was a big help. Aepoutre 17:35, 7 August 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Dont Do It help

Thanks for help on my don't do it page, I was having some trouble with it lol.

No problem bro. Aepoutre 22:29, 7 August 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Nazarene project

I don't know about the deprecated parameter bit. All I know is that it worked on the Aguiar Valvassoura article, and on the others that I've found that have "priority=" in place. The systems do develop glitches some times, maybe that time you did it was one of them. I dunno. John Carter 21:27, 22 August 2007 (UTC)

It's based on whatever language they put in place in the template. In this case, Template:NazareneProject uses "importance=" and a few other variations which others don't use. Just remember to type it exactly as indicated on the Wikipedia:WikiProject Church of the Nazarene/Assessment page, and there shouldn't be any problems. John Carter 21:35, 22 August 2007 (UTC)

[edit] lowell hall and yerxa

I think I can do those articles, I'll start working on them as soon as I have time —The preceding unsigned comment was added by JosephJohnCox (talk • contribs) 02:30, August 23, 2007 (UTC).

[edit] September 2007

Thank you for your contributions to Wikipedia. It appears that recently you carried out a copy and paste page move from Calvary Holiness Church. Please do not move articles by copying and pasting them because it splits the article's history, which is needed for attribution and is helpful in many other ways. If there is an article that you cannot move yourself using the move link at the top of the page, follow the instructions at Wikipedia:Requested moves. Also, if there are any other articles that you copied and pasted, even if it was a long time ago, please list them at Wikipedia:Cut and paste move repair holding pen. Thank you. Mr.Z-man 17:13, 1 September 2007 (UTC)

resolved by User:Mr.Z-man. See User talk:Mr.Z-man#good call:

hey good call, i forgot about that. i've done only one "move" before, and i forgot that i'd need calvary holiness church to be calvary holiness church (disambiguation). i'd love it if you'd help out! can you fix it? Aepoutre 17:14, 1 September 2007 (UTC)

I've already moved the history originally from Calvary Holiness Church to the article about the Philadelphia one if that is what you mean. If it stays as it is right now, it should all be fixed. With just the 2 articles, you should not need a Calvary Holiness Church (disambiguation) page. Mr.Z-man 17:17, 1 September 2007 (UTC)

okay. i put the request in. should i remove it? Aepoutre 17:20, 1 September 2007 (UTC)

I'll take care of it. Mr.Z-man 17:21, 1 September 2007 (UTC)

Thanks for catching that, and for fixing it. I appreciate it. I didn't even realise it had an effect on the history, but that makes sense. Thanks again. Aepoutre 17:23, 1 September 2007 (UTC)

Got your message about wolly beach - no problem. Might be your monitor though, because it looked ok on mine. :-) informedbanker —Preceding unsigned comment added by Informedbanker (talk • contribs) 13:32, 6 September 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Evangelicasim

Hi, no offence intended. Great entry, but in places reads like a magazine article near the end, mostly. See for example the use of the phrase "you name it" in the section on Evangelical politics in the United States. Also your use of terms like "secular media" as opposed "media" makes the article sound like it's not objective, but written from the POV of an Evangelical. Also when there should be references when you say that evangelicals were prominently active in the Woman Rights, Suffrage and Abolitionist movements. Otherwise one comes away that you are attributing all or most of the credit to evangelics, also a POV issue. There were a few other minor issues but I don't want to pile on. On the whole the entry is very well researched and written. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Abelian (talk • contribs) 04:11, 15 September 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Re: map templates

The map templates should only be used in the article for map's rail line, inside {{Infobox rail line}}. The maps shouldn't be placed in each station article because they take up too much space, especially for stations with several lines. Instead, the stations should have the {{s-line}} template inside {{Infobox Station}}, which displays the next and previous station along the line, as well as the line's terminal stations. I originally placed the map templates inside the articles for each station, however I had a discussion with other editors at Template talk:Infobox Station, and we all agreed that the maps should remain inside the rail line's article, and the {{s-line}} templates will be featured in the article for each station. Many station articles do not have {{s-line}} templates yet, however I will eventually get around to adding them in to each one. –Dream out loud (talk) 16:53, 15 September 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Nonprofit universities

Generally all colleges and universities are not-for-profit, so nonprofit nature is redundant. Those that are profit oriented are specifically listed in Category:For-profit universities and colleges. It is unnecessary to add colleges and universities individually to the nonprofit category, and if they are to be added at all, they should be added broadly using subcategories and not individually. Quatloo 17:56, 29 September 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Boston

A reply awaits you at User Talk:Hertz1888. Hertz1888 21:29, 22 October 2007 (UTC)

Thanks for your comment on my talk page. As you might have gathered, I'm not too worked up about it one way or the other, I just wanted to put in my 2 cents that the idea of Boston being a world-class city is certainly one that has come up numerous times over the past few years. Therefore, no matter the editor's motive, I think he/she might have been on to something by including it in the article, and I don't see it as vandalism. That said, I support you continuing to edit and clean-up the Boston article. I also am dubious of the so-called "gamma" world city claims as discussed further on Boston discussion page. Friejose 18:11, 24 October 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Lenexa, KS

The Nazarene Global Mission Center (the new HQ) is being built on the courner of 95th street and Reener BLVD in Lenexa, KS —Preceding unsigned comment added by Moonraker0022 (talk • contribs) 22:11, 14 November 2007 (UTC)

And check out the List of church of the Nazarene Conventions page. I dug out some old manuals! —Preceding unsigned comment added by Moonraker0022 (talk • contribs) 23:33, 14 November 2007 (UTC)

[edit] RE: Church of the Nazarene Mission statment

The problem I see with just putting one or the other is that the longer version is the official mission statement according to the Nazarene Manual. and the shorter version is an official statement according to the Board of superintendents and to the nazarene.org website. While the more concise version is newer I don't think it's intent was to replace the original mission statment. Let me know what you think. --Nwdguy (talk) 20:34, 27 November 2007 (UTC)

 I think that was a good way of stating the missions and as you said, they can dig deeper if they so choose.
 I do think there should be some reference to the core values.
 Here is the link to where they are on the nazarene website. I don't know if it
 should be a new section or added to one of the other sections. 
 http://www.nazarene.org/ministries/administration/centennial/core/display.aspx
 let me know what you think. --Nwdguy (talk) 16:29, 28 November 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Church of the nazarene - AKA

I saw you had to undo several removals of the words "often referred to as the Nazarene Church" - so I wasn't about to just go in and change it. I was wondering though, since the page is for the denomination, it seems like the term Nazarene church refers more to a single church. Is "Nazarene Church" used to refer to the denomination, and should that be included here? --Nwdguy (talk) 15:39, 13 December 2007 (UTC)

[edit] DYK

On 26 December 2007, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Kent R. Hill, which you created or substantially expanded. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page.

Cheers, Daniel 12:03, 26 December 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Church of the Nazarene (disambiguation)

Do you really think this is necessary? Are you quite familiar with the Church of the Nazarene? Let's talk! Aepoutre (talk) 17:20, 3 January 2008 (UTC)

Thank you for your questions on my talk page. I trust that you did not mean them as personal attacks, although they seem to be such. Yes, I do think it is necessary and yes, I do know a lot more about the church than you seem to think that I do, but really what I know is irrelevant. This is just a disambiguation page, nothing more and nothing less. I do a lot of work on the List of National Register of Historic Places entries and the Wikipedia:WikiProject National Register of Historic Places. A common problem on the list is with churches of the same name.Hence the need for a place of worship disambiguation page. There are at least two Churches of the Nazarene on the National Register. Peace be to you. Luke 24:36 clariosophic (talk) 21:29, 3 January 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Mary Lee

In fact I do! I'll be adding more and more here in the next couple days. I've got a team and hopefully we'll flesh out more of the early founders. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Moonraker0022 (talk • contribs) 19:13, 24 January 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Earlham College

Thanks for your edit. However there are now two sequences of references. Vernon White ^{. . . Talk} 22:31, 4 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Template:COTN schools

The above template is currently being considered for deletion on the basis of being unusued. If you would like to see the template used, I guess the best thing to do would be to place it on some articles. Otherwise, if you don't see it as being particularly useful, it will probably be deleted on the 15th. Personally, I don't have any real opinion one way or another. John Carter (talk) 15:29, 9 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Universities in Boston

No problem. I mainly wanted to note that Harvard has significant parts of it located in Boston, and give an idea of what schools were where. You're right, the abbreviated listing is much less disruptive. Collaborative editing at its best! Antony-22 (talk) 03:36, 1 April 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Free Republic

Links to Free Republic within article text fall broadly into two categories: links used as a source, but Free Republic is a web forum and not a reliable source; and links which contain reliable content, which violates someone else's copyright ( see for example L. A. Times v. Free Republic).

Links in "external links" sections are either unreliable source, copyvio or a link to avoid per WP:EL (polemical sites).

The excess linking of Free Republic by its members is such that it is being blacklisted, so I am clearing out the links first, as a courtesy. Guy (Help!) 22:07, 17 April 2008 (UTC)

[edit] template

It's so people can go in and make a page about it. All things SNU. Give it time. Right now I'm working on athletics. I've checked around with other schools and a lot of the smaller schools have lots of red links too. so no worries. there'll be articles about snu left and right. just give it time.Moonraker0022 (talk) 05:32, 20 April 2008 (UTC)

for example University of North Texas and template:University of North Texas

[edit] Wollaston, Massachusetts

Hey, no worries. I didn't even find your wording awkward-- just a little separatist, perhaps ;).

I've found http://www.usnaviguide.com/zip.htm to be a useful site. It displays zip code areas as an overlay on Google maps. As far as Quincy is concerned, Wollaston is the only geographical area I can think of that's defined pretty much by its zip code-- North Quincy and Squantum are 02171, and everything else is 02169.

I've noticed your work on various Quincy-related articles, by the way. Well done. I'm generally pretty lazy on that front, but let me know if you ever want a hand or a second opinion. I'm happy to help. Fullobeans (talk) 02:24, 24 April 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Commonwealth Coast Conference template

I'd like the my edit to that template, changing "Western New England" to "Western New England College" to be made. I work at Western New England College and we never refer to the College as Western New England. Please let me know your thoughts. 18:04, 2 May 2008 (UTC)Bpayne4001

Hey there. Thanks for the message. I understand your desire, but here's the issue: Wikipedia isn't for "official" terminology and propoganda, and more opposed to it than anything. The entire template uses shortened versions of names (Gordon for Gordon College, Eastern Nazarene for Eastern Nazarene College -- even though no one calls it Eastern Nazarene), and standardising coverage is something Wikipedia supports. Essentially, your desire to change a standardised template isn't enough to keep the edit. Your only other option would be to change all the names to full names, so that it's still standardised and you'll get your way with the full name ;-). Aepoutre (talk) 21:04, 5 May 2008 (UTC)

Fair enough. Thanks for the message.Bpayne4001 (talk) 01:55, 6 May 2008 (UTC)Bpayne4001

[edit] The Boston Conservatory

I'm rather insulted that you would call my attempts to improve this site vandalism. The citations that I added are valid and verifiable, so why shouldn't I delete the banner saying that the article needed citations? Shall I add some footnotes, just to make you happy? And, by the way, I'm on the Music Faculty there, so my interest in the article is to make it correct and current, not to vandalize it. How dare you! —Preceding unsigned comment added by Mugregg (talk • contribs) 14:59, 6 May 2008 (UTC)

Mugregg, the message above is a stock tag for reverted edits. Vandalism is essentially anything on Wikipedia that makes the article less encyclopedic and useful. It is not a personal attack; none of this is personal, and the editing process with go smoothly if we all avoid taking umbrage at others' edits. Two of the reasons Wikipedia prefers that individuals with personal connexions to a particular subject not edit articles pertaining to it are conflict of interest (and the resulting POV language) and the inevitable personal offence at a conflicting edit. My reasons for undoing your edit are thus: you removed the References code from beneath the heading, making it impossible for the article to register any well-cited sources there, and you added two relatively-poor sources (college guides) in its place. As I said before, it is not an improvement of an article to do so. The articles require standardization as well as good citation and sourcing. In response to your footnoting comment: yes, footnotes are better. As a faculty member, I'm sure you understand how to properly research and cite sources in a paper or publication. Wikipedia isn't too different in this respect. Happy editing! Aepoutre (talk) 19:44, 7 May 2008 (UTC)