User talk:Adz/Archive1

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The comments below from my User talk page were archived on 4 January 2006 and includes comments made up to December 29 2005.

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Contents 1 Welcome 2 Glebe Park 3 Canberra wiki project 4 Suburbs 5 Cutlure 6 Canberra things 7 Re:Istina 8 Canberra 9 Note to self 10 Canberra suburbs 11 User Categorization 12 Image:ParlTriangle.JPG 13 My RfA 14 Benjmin Dodd 15 barnstar of awesomeness 16 Making Maps 17 Davido, Victoria 18 Canberra suburbs map source info. 19 Ducker 20 Categories 21 Melbourne 22 Re: Seeking advice - Jung Sin Yuk-Do 23 Brisbane CityCat 24 Changing category names has caused problems for interwiki 25 Reply 26 Naming convention 27 Thanks for comments 28 Parliaments 29 "Vandalism" 30 Jung Sin Yuk-Do Article 31 Visit whilst in FNQ 32 Re:Dickson Centre, Australian Capital Territory

[edit] Welcome

Hello Adz/Archive1,

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Again, welcome.-- Cyberjunkie ^TALK 5 July 2005 14:37 (UTC)

P.S: I hope you don't mind, but I have corrected the link on your user-page to your contributions. External links use single parentheses ('[http://]'), and do not require vertical breaks ('|') before descriptions. The abovementioned links provide more detail on wikiformat.-- Cyberjunkie ^TALK 5 July 2005 14:37 (UTC)

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[edit] Glebe Park

It wasn't me that added the Glebe Park link, though I might've wikified it. I've never actually been there, so I'm afraid I won't be of much help at the moment...though I've been meaning to go look for a while. Ambi 14:31, 21 August 2005 (UTC)

No worries, Thanks. I'll try to have a go at filling it out over the next few days. Adz 23:26, 21 August 2005 (UTC)

Just to let you know I have filled in some detail about Glebe Park. I wanted to add I appreciate all the pictures you have been uploading - regards --AYArktos 01:27, 22 August 2005 (UTC)

Thanks AYArktos. Glebe Park looks great!!! taking pictures and uploading them is fun. i only with that the weather was better. Thanks for the feedback. Adz 04:21, 22 August 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Canberra wiki project

Hi Adz, Thanks for updating the progress statistics. Yes, I used to do this on a reasonably regular basis, but have been really busy with work, and a new house. I have pretty much been doing nothing at all on wikipedia in recent months. Martyman 00:30, 23 August 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Suburbs

I think the suburb article is a great idea, there is a similar one on the suburbs of Johannesburg. I tidied up the wikiformat a bit- I'm guessing you wrote it in Word and then pasted it to wikipedia? Word eats all the bold and itallic syntax, so I find it best if using a word processing package to type everything in notepad, then spell check in Word and then paste it into Wikipedia. --nixie 02:01, 24 August 2005 (UTC)

Thanks. that's exactly what I did. I have used the wordpad method before but I'm cutting corners today because I'm pressed for time. Note to self - don't cut corners. - Thanks for tidying up. I think let's try to complete Canberra first, and then maybe come back to suburbs of canberra. I think it needs a bit of a History section etc. Info about when districts were settled. population etc. maps.... Suburbs of J'burg looks lood! Very interesting too. Adz 02:05, 24 August 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Cutlure

Hi, I've reorganised the Canberra article to include a culture section, since you seem to be knowledgabel on the subject could you expand it when you get a chance. Thanks. Also sister cities seem to have got the chop somewhere along the line, I'd like to put them back, but I'm note ure which section they'd be best in. --nixie 01:24, 31 August 2005 (UTC)

No worries. I'll take a look at it, but might not get around to doing anything until tomorrow evening (Thursday). Thanks for letting me know and for putting in the effort. Adz 03:55, 31 August 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Canberra things

I've responded to your locality question on that talk page. With the shopping and town centres, I intend to write articles on all of these in the not too distant future, and think they could make quite workable seperate articles (as we've already seen with the major shopping centres of Melbourne). Others also evidently agreed, as seen by the fact that some of them have started to get articles - it's just that they haven't linked them from the surrounding suburbs yet (which would mean they'd end up with other incoming links), as well as perhaps chains located there. This is why I object to them being redirected or delinked - it's effectively preventing anyone else from coming along and creating what could be a good article at a later date. Ambi 10:55, 5 September 2005 (UTC)

Thanks. I've voted and proposed what I think is a compromise. If the decision is to collapse the group centres into the suburbs, don't let that deter you from writing articles about them anyway. Link them from the suburb itself. Adz 11:27, 5 September 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Re:Istina

After looking it over, it appears the user's very last edit appears to be in good faith... that being said, I will unblock, but should I see any more vandalism coming out, I will reblock (as per policy). That being said, I hope that the user has turned over a new leaf and happy editing to both of you! Regards. Sasquatch讲看 04:08, September 6, 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Canberra

Hi, could you take a look at User:Petaholmes/Sandbox/Canberra as a potential rearrangement for the Canberra article. It's being discussed on Talk:Canberra.--nixie 23:10, 7 September 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Note to self

• Try to find links for Govie (Canberra) (orphan).

I put up an article on Monocrete construction a while ago. Martyman 05:24, 15 September 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Canberra suburbs

Sorry for the misunderstanding - that comment was intended to be directed squarely at Garglebutt, for suggesting that we shouldn't have suburbs at all. Your work on districts is sorely needed, and thank you very much for doing it. :) Ambi 09:48, 16 September 2005 (UTC)

[edit] User Categorization

You were listed on the Wikipedia:Wikipedians/Australia page as living in or being associated with Australia. As part of the Wikipedia:User categorisation project, these lists are being replaced with user categories. If you would like to add yourself to the category that is replacing the page, please visit Category:Wikipedians in ACT for instructions.. Rmky87 21:54, 19 September 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Image:ParlTriangle.JPG

I notice that this photo doesn't have any source information and the photo has been requesed for deletion for over a week. I would appreciate if you could add your source and a copyright tag to the photo. Otherwise it will be deleted in a couple of days. Regards, Thuresson 09:46, 30 September 2005 (UTC)

[edit] My RfA

Hi Adz. Just wanted to thank you for supporting my RfA, and for the compliment! I hope I'm able to live up to the confidence placed in me. --Cyberjunkie | Talk 03:40, 19 October 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Benjmin Dodd

I wonder if you would be kind enough to comment on Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Benjmin Dodd, please? I think that since you are a current contributor to the Ballarat, Victoria article, it would be helpful if you would take a look at this article. -Walter Siegmund 03:40, 25 October 2005 (UTC)

[edit] barnstar of awesomeness

G'day Adz,

looks like there's no such thing as a Barnstar of Awesomeness. I'll have to work on that. Until then, enjoy this plain-jane barnstar. --fuddlemark (fuddle me!) 07:31, 1 November 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Making Maps

Well to make maps properly you need special geospacial mapping software, of which if you search around you can find some free stuff that works. Unfortunately as far as I can see the data that you need to feed into these geospacial programs is always under copyright, so you can't get a free version out to upload to wikipedia.

The maps I make for wikipedia I like to think of more as illustrations rather than 100% accurate maps, much the same way street directories don't come anywhere close to being 100% accurate. I use Adobe Illustrator into which I paste reference images be it an existing map, satelite photo or whatever and trace over them by hand. Generally if I can use more than one source for a map I feel less guilty about stealing information. As the actual data displayed by the map can't be copyrighted only the map itself. Then you include the info you want, remove the source images and export to png, theoretically it would also be possible to export to svg but I haven't really played with that yet.

Illustrator is really quite expensive and overkill for the job. I would recomend if you want to try out making maps (or other illustrations) download a copy of inkscape and give it a try. --Martyman-(talk) 12:25, 3 November 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Davido, Victoria

Ofcourse. I love looking stuff up in the domed reading room (where all the books on Australia are kept). Thanks so much for the reference. Cnwb 13:55, 4 November 2005 (UTC)

No worries. Since it was added twice to List of ghost towns by different users (although they turn out likely to be sock puppets of the same person), it seemed worth asking the author for a reference rather than slapping AFD on it straight away. Cnwb did most of the work. --Scott Davis ^Talk 13:26, 5 November 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Canberra suburbs map source info.

Thanks for the clarification. Sometimes the date precedes the gazettal date. I will annotate the table at South_Canberra_(district)#Suburbs with date of suburban settlement:-). All the inner south suburb names were gazetted at the same time so the "settlement date" is more meaningful in some ways. Regards--A Y Arktos 20:21, 30 November 2005 (UTC)

I'll double chack the list to make sure that all the dates are correct. -- Adz 06:06, 1 December 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Ducker

I think a category "Australian state politicians" would be useful, but I have never figured out how to create categories. If you care to create one I will link various articles to it. On the other hand you may feel that separate categories for each state are needed. Adam 06:42, 8 December 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Categories

Two points:

• "Victorian politicians" has an unfortunate ambiguity. William Gladstone was a Victorian politician.
• Categories should distinguish between state and federal politicians.

Adam 05:15, 9 December 2005 (UTC)

I have tried to create [[Category:Melbourne churches]] but it doesn't seem to have worked. I would be grateful if you could fix it. Adam 09:44, 10 December 2005 (UTC)

Many thanks. Adam 10:14, 10 December 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Melbourne

There are in category:Churches in Melbourne, which is correct under terms of naming conventions. - Darwinek 10:20, 10 December 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Re: Seeking advice - Jung Sin Yuk-Do

From looking at the article and its links, I think it's something that is being taught. Whether it is a legitimate martial art or notable in any case, I'm not sure - although I reckon not. You could either 1) contact participants of WikiProject Martial Arts (presumably knowledgeable in this area) and ask their advice on a course of action, or 2) AfD it and notify the WikiProject. I'd say it has a fair chance of being deleted, given it is only referenced in two other websites outside Wikipedia.--cj | talk 07:29, 14 December 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Brisbane CityCat

I have slightly reworded the article to indicate that there were initially six CityCats in the fleet, and that two further CityCats joined the fleet later, without mentioning how many CityCats there are now. Hopefully this should do, especially as I am not sure how many CityCats there are at present in the fleet. Figaro 15:39, 14 December 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Changing category names has caused problems for interwiki

Hi, back in October, Whobot changed the names of a number of categories from "Airports of Country" to "Airports in Country". This has caused a problem where categories in wikipedias in other languages had interwikilinks to the categories that were changed. Namely, the links no longer work. I have fixed a couple (Airports in Sweeden and Aiprorts in Poland) but this obviously leaves a great many links in other language wikipedias that have broken links. Is there any way that your bot could possibly go through them and fix the broken links? (I'm guessing not since you would probably need permission from the other wikipedias to run your bot there...? Thought it was worth asking) -- Adz 11:52, 11 December 2005 (UTC)

Hi, sorry for the delayed response.. sort of on Wiki-break. Uhm. I would have to look more into it, and yes I would require permission to run whobot on other wiki's. Unfortunately, I wont be on for awhile, and the reason for the changes were consensus formed on WP:CFD from the community and a very lengthy discussion on category naming. You may want to ask another CFD admin that runs a bot to look into it as well, since I am taking a break. User:Beland or User:Bluemoose both run bots and work with categories. Good luck, sorry I couldnt be of more assistance for the time being. Cheers. «»Who?¿?^meta 08:16, 15 December 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Reply

Don't ever be condescending towards anyone. They don't appreciate it. Why waste your time with that huge peice? It means nothing. - G^t 08:24, 15 December 2005 (UTC)

I didn't mean to be condescending. I'm sorry you perceived it that way. The comments were well intentioned. I see a lot of edit wars that could often easilly avoided. - Why waste time on edit wars? If you think the piece meant nothing then perhaps I failed at describing what I was trying to say. Have fun editing. -- Adz 09:18, 15 December 2005 (UTC)

Adz- Good comments.

[edit] Naming convention

Thanks. Even if we did go back to the old system, it wouldn't be of much use to us in the ACT, as because all the suburbs have fairly generic names, almost all of them would be at their current titles anyway. :) Ambi 12:28, 15 December 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Thanks for comments

Hi Adz. Thanks for comments on Jung Sin Yuk-Do. The CKD people are really quite clicky, and never let it be said that something one of their ex-members did was actually good and worthwhile in a positive way!!! A quick glance at the www.ksdi.net page and the link "Resignation" will show you just how this organisation works, and what they will do and say to discredit people.

Jung Sin Yuk-Do is a culmination of years of research, put together in a new non-conventional martial arts recognition & training way. Sure, some whil disagree with that way, but it will always be that way in everything in life. It's like Disney. Millions around the world love it, and a few because of accidents, deaths or for some other reason, hate it. Doesn't make it invalid or irrelevant.

The Choi Kwang-Do people from Australia who are obsessed with the Jung Sin Yuk-Do page on wikipedia, are doing so to discredit something that they know absolutely nothing about. From what I can see, the article shows that Jung Sin Yuk-Do is a martial arts moving forward with some new concepts. Isn't something that breaks from tradition good? If we didn't have people trying new things and new ways, we wouldn't have cars, planes, computers, wikipedia!!! cairnsckd 21:52, 16 December 2005 (UTC) ^{comments moved from user page}

^{[edit] Parliaments}

^{I'm not sure that's the best way to go about things, considering that we already have categories at Members of xxx parliament for the individual members. How about creating Category:Australian legislatures instead? The parliaments category could be a subcat of that to avoid any confusion. Ambi 09:16, 18 December 2005 (UTC)}

^{[edit] "Vandalism"}

^{You recently reverted some "vandalism" that appeared on the Lowell, Michigan. Exactly what was this "vandalism" supposed to be? Scorpionman}

^{There were a whole series of recent edits which you can follow in the edit history that inserted a picture of a South Park character, inserted comments about Peter peter pumpkin eater etc. None of it belonged in an encyclopedic article, so I reverted back to the last version that at quick glance appeared to me to be the last version before people started playing with it. -- Adz 02:02, 21 December 2005 (UTC)}

^{Retrieved from "http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Scorpionman"}

^{[edit] Jung Sin Yuk-Do Article}

^{Is appears from reading the messages, that "Clan" is an ex-Instructor of Rod Cook's, and has been discrediting his name via email, phone and now via Wikipedia. The Jung Sin Yuk-Do program is non-profit, and it's the continual hampering by this clan (you can easily pick his email addres, he's on;ly interested in this article and the Choi Kwang-Do one). The sad bit is no-one that has or had anything with Rod Cook and/or Jung Sin Yuk-Do over the last few years, have had anything to do with ex-Instructor of Rod Cooks. It seems that his whole purpose on wikipedia is negative and destructive.}

^{cairnsckd 05:46, 22 December 2005 (UTC)}

                THERE IS NO NEED TO DISCREDIT SOMETHING THAT HAS NO CREDIT -
                BUT TO ALLOW IT TO BE PROMOTED AS SOMETHING IT IS NOT, SHOULD NOT BE ALLOWED 
                TO CONTINUE.
                TAKE THE COMMENT ABOVE 'CAIRNSCKD' IS ONE OF ROD COOKS EMAIL NAMES,  SO WHY 
                WOULD HE BE WRITING THIS COMMENT AS 3RD PARTY?  (BECAUSE HE IS ..WP:POV )
                I HAVE NOT PARTICIPATED IN 
                DISCREDITING THIS GUY VIA EMAIL, PH, OR WIKI.  INSTEAD I HAVE ATTEMPTED TO 
                POST NON-BIASED FACTUAL INFORMATION PERTAINING TO THE SUBJECTS I HAVE 
                CONTRIBUTED TO.   UNFORTUNATLEY THIS DOES NOT SUIT 'COOKS PARTY LINE' FOR THE 
                PROMOTION OF (HIMSELF) JSYD,  SO HE THROWS UP THAT I OR OTHERS ARE 
                DISGRUNTLED, PICKING ON HIM, TARGETING HIM, TRYING TO DISCREDIT HIM - CREATING 
                FALSE STORIES AND THREATENS LEGAL ACTION ' IF YOU SAY THIS YOU ARE LIBEL' TYPE 
                COMMENTS -  WELL HE SHOULDN'T GO WRITING HIS OWN STORIES ON WIKI THEN HE 
                WOULDN'T GET SO PERSONAL WITH HIS COMMENTS.  PERSONALLY I THINK THIS GUY IS 
                DEFINATLEY WHAT WIKI CALLS WP:POV AND IF I WAS 
                BETTER WITH PC'S AND THE INTERNET AND I COULD WORK OUT THE PROCESS I WOULD 
                NOMINATE IT AS SUCH.     -  CLAN   -

^{[edit] Visit whilst in FNQ}

^{Maybe it's time to visit a school that teaches Jung Sin Yuk-Do whilst in FNQ, if you're anywhere near Cairns *8-) Surely you have nothing better to do on your holiday  ;) cairnsckd 05:27, 23 December 2005 (UTC)}

^{[edit] Re:Dickson Centre, Australian Capital Territory}

^{Thanks for clearing up the confusion. I hope you had a great Christmas! Brisvegas 05:48, 29 December 2005 (UTC)}