Talk:Advanced Photo System
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Does anyone know if APS negatives, once processed, are safe for long term storage inside the cartridge? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 72.35.56.100 (talk • contribs) 14:41, 1 August 2006.
- I imagine just as safe as any other processed film in some sort of protection. The film is protected in the cartridge, but temperature and humidity are still important. I don't know what else to add. The film in an APS cartridge is (almost) identical to than in 35mm, 120, and other sized film. --Imroy 16:55, 1 August 2006 (UTC)
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- It's probably safer than the other film, due do the canister it's stored in. However, said film still deteriorates with age, and can be damaged by magnets(as information is stored on the film magnetically).--Vercalos 06:52, 9 November 2007 (UTC)
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[edit] Foreign
If I take an APs camera outside of the US is it likely that I will be able to find APS film? I am just wondering if I would be adding dead weight if there is no film APS available. 134.250.72.174 19:03, 14 August 2006 (UTC)
- I occasionally see it here in Australia, but it's usually only one or two types of Kodak "Advantix" film and maybe Fuji Nexus or whatever it's called. Processing is more expensive as well. It'd be better to go with 35mm or digitial. --Imroy 23:02, 14 August 2006 (UTC)
I don't believe that the format was ever intended for positive film (slide, transparancy), or for traditional black and white print film. I know there was (is?) a chromogenic (C-41 development) black and white film available (b&w400) in the aps format from Kodak. The last time I saw it was a few months ago and the expiration date on it was 3/2006. It was in single, carded packages. For that matter I think aps film was only ever offered in carded packaging. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 66.67.55.225 (talk • contribs) 07:50, 20 August 2006 (UTC).
- There was a slide film made by FujiFilm briefly, there was a standard for encoding IX data on the slide mount. Kodak made a chromogenic (B&W C-41) film, and the film was availible in boxes without cards, just not widely. Retailers, like everyone involved in APS was counting on big profits & wanted to use every marketing trick in the book to get people to buy this stuff. Cranialsodomy 07:50, 20 August 2006 (UTC)
[edit] 35mm Also
Did the fact that 35mm cameras can now be made auto loading and very small like the Olympus Stylus Epic Also help make this format obsolete? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 84.68.180.10 (talk • contribs) .
- The compactness is already mentioned in the text:
- "These developments, combined with the fact that 35mm cameras could now be made almost as compact as APS-format cameras, prevented APS from attaining greater popularity."
- How easy is the auto loading of this Olympus camera you cite? APS really is "drop in", whereas I thought the compact 35mm cameras still required the user to tuck the film leader under a tab in the back of the camera. Still, that's certainly easier than getting the end to latch onto the take-up reel. --Imroy 15:12, 18 October 2006 (UTC)
[edit] A quick question
- A small number of manufacturers still produce APS films.[citation needed]
I work in a photo lab and we get APS film in on occasion(usually at least 5 rolls a week of APS). Now I know that there are manufacturers that still produce APS film, but I don't know if the citation tag is referring to the manufacture of APS film or if it's referring to the 'small number'. I can provide evidence of the former, direct from Fujifilm's official site(http://www.fujifilm.com/products/consumer_film/index.html), but I don't know if this counts as a cite-able source. Can anyone offer any clarification?--Vercalos 06:47, 9 November 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Article needs an in-depth explanation of why APS exists
Rather than this being a purely functional/technical article, it would be useful to explain in the introduction why Kodak invented APS -- which is that it greatly simplifies camera use and provides higher-quality photos by reducing customer contact with raw film, and was introduced as a way for film cameras to keep up with the ease-of-use of the emerging digital photography technology.
There is a statistic that says Kodak found a large percentage of amateur 35mm shots are missed because the photographer screwed up the film loading and the film wasn't advancing as they assumed, resulting in a large degree of consumer frustration with the 35mm format. While the film can be securely spooled several times with the back open to prevent sprocket detachment, this also means film is wasted and fewer shots can be taken. Meanwhile since the consumer must handle the bare 35mm film directly during loading, it is easily contaminated with dirt and oils on the user's hands.
APS eliminates loading and handling annoyances by autoloading from the cartridge and allowing the film to rewind and even allows a roll to be removed mid-roll and reloaded later, which was virtually impossible to do without overlapping frames or wasted film with the old 35mm sprocket film. The end-user is required to do little more than insert a sealed plastic film cartridge that fits only one way into a specially shaped slot on the camera. After use it auto-rewinds, and when the film is developed it is again stored in the original roll catridge protecting the bare film from scratches and fingerprints.
Even the auto-rewinding is important. It prevents the user from pulling the film off the end-spool, which was easily possible since most film was held on the end-spool with adhesive tape. Detachment results in a mess that either means opening the camera to remove the detached film and exposing all the film, or taking the camera in to a processor and hoping they can open it blind in a darkroom and get the film out without damaging the film too much. The loose film tail could also cause problems by coating the inside of the camera body and shutter with mechanism-jamming adhesive goop.
Then there's the preview/guide sheet printed with every roll of APS. Since the film is permanently stored in the cassette, and cannot be pulled out by the end-user, the preview sheet is used to indicate to a film processor what pictures should be [re-]printed from the roll. Although most film processing includes prints of the entire roll, the basic processing requires only developing the roll and printing the preview sheet.
I suppose I will add this at some later time, but need to research the history some more.
