Talk:Adolf Hitler in popular culture

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Articles for deletion This article was nominated for deletion on 1 August 2007. The result of the discussion was no consensus.

Hitler has turned up in a number of video games. Should these be added to "Hitler in fiction" or perhaps a separate section, "Hitler in video games?" --Feitclub 05:48, Apr 11, 2005 (UTC

In my opinion, that should go under a separate section. I'm curious, though, what games has Hitler been in? I do a lot of gaming, and I don't recall him being in any games. Perhaps he's been mentioned in the many WWII games, but I've certainly never seen him as a 3D character.--Daveswagon 2 July 2005 22:22 (UTC)
He was in Wolfenstein 3D as one of the end-level bosses. Psychonaut 3 July 2005 09:49 (UTC)

One could almost make an entire section on The Simpsons referrences to Hitler. There's a list of them under the "Germany" subheading here.--Daveswagon 04:37, 13 July 2005 (UTC)

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[edit] Lack of other side

On the page there is mentioned that Hitler during his lifetime was depicted as glorious hero, but no examples given, all examples are just those of mockering.

[edit] Template

We're having a debate on Template talk:Adolf Hitler about whether to include Triumph of the Will and The Empty Mirror as pop culture references. Any thoughts? Palm_Dogg 06:14, 18 November 2005 (UTC)

[edit] DC Universe Hitler

Well, http://www.dcuguide.com/board/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=279&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=15 should just about cover that.

George Foreman did a time boxer skit. Few more come to mind.

[edit] Cats that look like Hitler

I don't have the time right now to look through this whole article, but I saw a website dedicated to cats resembling Adolf (actually called catsthatlooklikehitler.com). Was this posted up here at all or is it just not needed?

[edit] I smell a weasel, or is that a stankin opossum?

"Hitler was a gifted, charismatic orator possessed of a profound personal presence, "

Weasel words like I've never heard them before. I myself am too lazy to change it, but just pointing it out, that it should neutralizalized to make it sound more encyclopediac-er. Cha.68.34.239.31 06:46, 11 December 2006 (UTC)

I do agree that the above sentence may sound weaselish... but then again, Hitler was a highly gifted a capable leader who was well know for his oratory skills. Please read the below post for more comments... MickeyK 22:33, 14 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] General Suggestions

I suggest that the entire section (the introduction) which is a brief bio on Hitler, be removed. This article is about Hitler in popular culture, not Hitler himself. MickeyK 22:33, 14 December 2006 (UTC)

I added a reference to the popularity of the Emo hitler internet meme. Seen it enough to know it is notableYou very nice place 00:29, 22 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Hitler Vs. Stalin

http://www.comics.aha.ru/rus/stalin/ Is this worth mentioning?

[edit] TV SHOW WITH HITLER IN IT?

oh yea i remember one time when i was 7 or 8,that on the show Hey Arnold the Veterans day episode speacial that in the end,the grandpa says that he won WW2 by killing Hitler by giving him nugies,wegdies and poking him in the eye. I totally remembered that.IT WAS IN A CHILDRENS SHOW! HOW HILARIOUS IS THAT!? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 74.104.48.140 (talk) 01:10, 17 April 2007 (UTC).

[edit] Family Guy

As I know of, three Family Guy references to Hitler exist. One, if Hitler were still alive (where he has a talk show), another with Eva Braun where they joke about taking pills to kill themselves, and another with "Peter Hitler", who is "Adolf's favorite brother". Zchris87v 06:51, 29 June 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Name

Why not rename this "Adolf Hitler in popular culture"? SalaSkan 12:41, 2 July 2007 (UTC)

"Hitler" is mostly associated with Adolf Hitler. Hitler redirects to the Adolf Hitler article and requires a disambiguation page, even there only 6 out of 23 links are unrelated to Adolf Hitler. As evidenced by the disambiguation page and redirecting of Hitler, Adolf Hitler is the most common one. "Hitler in popular culture" seems to be sufficient. Zchris87v 16:12, 2 July 2007 (UTC)
Yes, the title is not that confusing, but what are the downsides of renaming it "Adolf Hitler in popular culture"? It is slightly clearer, and nearly all people in Category:Representations of people in popular culture seem to have their first name included in the title. SalaSkan 18:05, 2 July 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Removal of Hitler in Persona 2

>rv; it's a single reference of questionable importance with no relevance to popular views -- user:Eyrian

Yes, it does. I suggest you read the List of Persona 2 characters#Adolf_Hilter first before RV. If the case of Persona 2 is a trivia, this whole list is a trivia as well. One more RV and I will nominate this article to deletion. -- Sameboat - 同舟 01:11, 1 August 2007 (UTC)

Please do. That particular one was removed because the other examples at least serve to illustrate popular opinions/views on Hitler, while that one did not. --Eyrian 01:14, 1 August 2007 (UTC)
Just popping in here (I got redirected), but this article is plainly trivia. The "popular culture" sections of every article that I've seen have been removed since the trivia ruling. It doesn't even have any thoughtful analysis about Charlie Chaplin or anything, it's not different than the article on supervillains which merely lists about 200000 villains (at least it did, until I got through with it :D) with no references. Any article which is just a giant list of redirects to other articles is usually pretty dubious, imo. Johnnyfog 01:18, 1 August 2007 (UTC)
I've gone ahead and taken the initiative. You can continue to rearrange the deck chairs (in spite of WP:3RR), though. --Eyrian 01:26, 1 August 2007 (UTC)
Cool. Now I can get back to what I was doing.Johnnyfog 01:38, 1 August 2007 (UTC)

[edit] FMA

Hitler was in Fullmetal Alchemist the movie. I added it but it disapeared while I was looking for the right spelling24.81.59.101 23:11, 25 August 2007 (UTC)

It was removed because it was a trivial mention; there was no asserted importance to the work in question. Wikipedia is not a trivia collection. --Eyrian 23:19, 25 August 2007 (UTC)

His appearance was a major plot point24.81.59.101 04:24, 26 August 2007 (UTC)

I agree that he was of importance in the movie, in other television shows such as Family Guy he is featured in very short sequences. Who has the right to say what is trivial or not?DarkAvenger280 20:12, 30 August 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Hitler Hardcore Techno Remix

I recently added a point about a track which is sometimes credited as DJ Adolf Hitler with the track "Seig Heil". Due to the fact that the information can only really be retrieved from P2P networks, it is very difficult to reference the source. Is there any way around this? —Preceding unsigned comment added by IdeologicalArrest (talk • contribs) 23:52, 20 November 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Fair use rationale for Image:Newadventuresofhitler.jpg

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BetacommandBot (talk) 22:14, 2 January 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Another novel to add to the list

Éric-Emmanuel Schmitt wrote The Alternative Hypothesis, a fiction in which Hitler becomes a successful painter in a peaceful, thriving 20th century Germany. Hugo Dufort (talk) 03:38, 15 January 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Adolph or Adolf?

I was just watching Indiana Jones and the last crusade and Hitler does not sign his name as Adolph. He signs it Adolf.--84.55.118.43 (talk) 04:59, 4 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Proposed cleanup

This article is in very bad shape, and in my opinion needs to be completely rewritten. A list of this length simply is not acceptable--rather this article should focus on portrayals of Hitler (especially in film and literature) and what he has come to symbolize (namely evil incarnate). I'm going to begin cleaning out trivia, and would appreciate help. TallNapoleon (talk) 02:04, 10 April 2008 (UTC)

I have started deleting things. It would be nice if instead of being a collection of lists this article discuss his actual significance in popular culture. TallNapoleon (talk) 21:28, 27 April 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Little Nicky

What about Hitler at the end of little nicky?  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 64.80.40.189 (talk) 00:49, 5 May 2008 (UTC)
  • Is it relevant? This should not be a list of every appearance of a Hitler character in an anime, movie, TV series, comic book, or circus show; rather, it should discuss the most significant appearances and explain the general ways Hitler is characterized in pop culture. TallNapoleon (talk) 02:49, 5 May 2008 (UTC)