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Contents 1 Wrong 2 shouldn't this be changed? 3 Adolf Hitler Dolls 4 Cookie Monster 5 Merge 6 hitler 7 Might I be able to help? 8 Rape of Europa 9 this should be changed 10 Is that pic really hitler ? 11 Propaganda Picture

[edit] Wrong

I hope whoever referenced Hitler as the "Ultimate PWNDER" will stop changing difference pages that mention Hitler. It's just silly, and makes light of a very serious discussiong. Thank you. 606-2-610

Also to be mentioned, the marriage date of adolf and eva is incorrect, they married on april 30 not the 29th, at about 12:26 am. The reason that it may say the 29th is due to the fact thats when the info was filled out, but they didn't officially become married until the early morning -The future president, Sean Fehr —Preceding unsigned comment added by 167.135.26.54 (talk) 16:13, 15 May 2008 (UTC)

There is also an incorrect date under the rearmament section. Hitler announced his plans to expand the Reichswehr to 36 divisions, as well as the expansion of the Luftwaffe to 2000 planes in March 1935.. NOT 1934 as it states here. These dates are known as the 'Saturday Surprises'. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Rjbricky (talk • contribs) 14:11, 28 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] shouldn't this be changed?

set him against a coalition that included the world's largest empire (the British Empire), the world's greatest industrial and financial power (the United States), and the world's largest army (the Soviet Union).

Shouldn't that also mention the British Empire was also the largest naval Empire? thanks... —Preceding unsigned comment added by 99.165.196.212 (talk) 17:26, 23 April 2008 (UTC)

No. It's referring to industrial/ manpower strengths. The fact the Britain was a naval super power is not important. Dapi89 (talk) 16:51, 25 April 2008 (UTC)

england indeed had the mightiest navy! it was one main factor which helped her 2 xpand and preserve her empire!thanxs--UD (talk) 06:26, 30 April 2008 (UTC)UD

Maybe also note that england has the greatest superpowers, as well as super duper powers? If anyone can find a source for this thanks, its currently orig. res. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.83.121.172 (talk) 11:39, 1 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Adolf Hitler Dolls

[edit] Cookie Monster

New Hitler book by Swedish historian Bengt Liljegren.[1] He is convinced that Hitlers died a virgin, and that he was a cookie devourer. By the end he didnt even care that cookie crumbs were stuck in his moustash. His secretary Christa Schroeder noted "face to face with this cookie-devouring human ruin I always became nauscious". (probably lost something in translation from German (to english?) to swedish to English...)--Stor stark7 ^Speak 20:38, 30 April 2008 (UTC)

Are trying to make a meaningful point, or just to portray yourself unflatteringly? One of these objectives has been achieved. Paul B (talk) 22:03, 30 April 2008 (UTC)

Very intresting reaction... All I did was to notify that there was a new book dealing with the more human aspekts of the man. Is it perhaps time to read Wikipedia:Civility?--Stor stark7 ^Speak 22:20, 30 April 2008 (UTC)

I would suggest the first aim was achieved. If wikipedians were not interested in trivia where would we be? - Streona —Preceding unsigned comment added by Streona (talk • contribs) 12:10, 1 May 2008 (UTC)

Well this unexpected human quirk puts the whole mass murder thing in a whole new light. --Dawud —Preceding unsigned comment added by 218.167.169.232 (talk) 10:14, 9 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Merge

• Oppose It was suggested that Theory of Hitler´s escape be merged into this one. Until it is found that he really did escape the "theory" has no place in this article. It can stand alone as an article on one Conspiracy theory however. Borock (talk) 18:44, 2 May 2008 (UTC)

• Oppose Adolf Hitler's article is long enough. If this turns out to be somewhat relevant, it should be more than enough to open a section in the "adolf hitler" artcile with a concise paragraph, and a link at the top to the "main article".Maziotis (talk) 18:03, 3 May 2008 (UTC)

• Oppose Per reasons stated above. I would even vote for a deletion of said topic. ~Ambrosia- ^talk 04:29, 4 May 2008 (UTC)

• Oppose. This is a notable conspiracy theory but it is not of sufficient relevance to merge with this article. Paul B (talk) 10:25, 4 May 2008 (UTC)

• Oppose Adolf Hitler's article is too long. The Theory of Hitler´s escape is a valid topic as it is a conspiracy theory. To maintain wikipedia's standard article size, i.e. 32 KB, these two information cannot be merged. Otolemur crassicaudatus (talk) 05:00, 6 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] hitler

did hitler commit suicide by swallowing a poison pill?Jabba the butt (talk) 11:45, 3 May 2008 (UTC)

Current legend states he shot himself and took a pill, so that if the shot didnt kil him or the pill didnt kill him, theo ther would--Jakezing (talk) 15:21, 6 May 2008 (UTC)

Reason being (as far as I remember) that a number of other officers had made mistakes while shooting themselves in the head and survived/suffered glancing blows, and Hitler was looking to avoid such a mistake. SGGH ^speak! 11:45, 8 May 2008 (UTC)

i dont see why you decided to add so many extra :::'s to that.--Jakezing (talk) 14:54, 8 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Might I be able to help?

I have the highly coveted (or so the guy who sold it to me says...) book "Hitler and his Generals". It contains recorded conferences with his generals (such as Rommel and Guderian) by stenographers. It is filled with citations and I am certain it could help. It has quite a few interesting statements such as Hitler talking about how Erwin Rommel will get worn out if he stays in Africa any longer. Among other interesting things is Jodl telling Hitler current military situations and positions. Well, if you think it could help, please post here or PM me. Yojimbo501 (talk) 20:51, 8 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Rape of Europa

New documentary playing in theatres now:

http://www.rapeofeuropa.com/

Green Squares (talk) 21:14, 9 May 2008 (UTC)

Liking the POV title. :D SGGH ^speak! 09:42, 11 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] this should be changed

the british and french empires did not declare war on germany, the british empire and france did france was a republic with no emperor therefore it was not an empire in 1939 —Preceding unsigned comment added by 194.81.33.111 (talk) 13:42, 18 May 2008 (UTC)

Empires aren't classified as such because they have an emperor leading them, they are classified as empires because they take other peoples' land and subjugate them. Read through French_colonial_empires#Second_French_colonial_empire, which lasted until 1960, when the African colonies were granted independence. Parsecboy (talk) 14:02, 18 May 2008 (UTC)

Wait, what? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.83.178.184 (talk) 21:28, 20 May 2008 (UTC)

Basically, France and Britain both had empires, and the nations of their empires also declared war. Don't forget to sign your posts using ~~~~ SGGH ^speak! 10:16, 1 June 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Is that pic really hitler ?

It definately doesnt look like the fuehrer to me, his eyes are different and why would he be wearing only 1 glove ?

It's definately not hitler.Even the mustache is wrong.

82.23.16.70 (talk) 19:23, 7 June 2008 (UTC)

I'm not sure where the image came from, or its authenticity, but it was uploaded over the original file by a new user. I have since re-uploaded the correct photograph, it should be back to normal. Parsecboy (talk) 19:34, 7 June 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Propaganda Picture

Sorry, but why do we use a propaganda picture of Adolf Hitler? Don't we have a normal picture of him? A picture of him giving a speech, or a picture of him visiting a city in Germany? Just a normal picture made by a journalist or photograph at site. The current picture does portrait him in a positive light, if you know what I mean. It is staged, propaganda.

The photo is not a propaganda picture; it's a normal portrait. There's nothing wrong with it. If anything, your suggestion for a picture from a speech would be more propagandistic than anything else. Parsecboy (talk) 16:09, 9 June 2008 (UTC)

Agreed, this picture is just an official portrait of him. I don't see how it can amount in itself, to "propaganda". If he were shown either kissing or eating a baby, you might be able to say it's propagandist, but as it stands, I think it's as neutral as, say, a picture of Winston Churchill, Josef Stalin or Harry S. Truman.--Rodhullandemu 16:14, 9 June 2008 (UTC)

No, in this picture he seems like a lovely human being. A normal human being. But he was a not. We need a picture of him in uniform and with the swastika wristband. Because that was the real Hitler. The current picture seems like a family portrait of a normal guy. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 78.94.186.41 (talk) 17:03, 9 June 2008 (UTC)

So, in fact, you're suggesting that we should ourselves propagandise as this image fails to do that? I think not. --Rodhullandemu 20:53, 9 June 2008 (UTC)