Talk:Adobe Illustrator
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The article says that the program has a "low learning curve". What's that, exactly? Originally I believe the learning curve showed how much you've learnt (on the vertical axis) versus time (on the horizontal). So a steep learning curve actually means you learn fast, and a flatter learning curve means you learn slower.
If you don't know what the curve shows, it probably sounds like a "steep learning curve" is more difficult than a "flat" one - steep hills are harder to climb, right? And nowadays that seems to be how it is usually used.
I'm not sure what a "low" learning curve would be - one where there just is not much to learn? - but I guess the idea was to say that "it is easy to learn". Humans n Here's how I would express that: "it is easy to learn".
The earliest Windows version didn't support color graphics (unlike the Macintosh version, which did). I found this out after reading a review of the first Windows version in a old computer magazine.
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[edit] Screenshot
Would someone please upload a screenshot that isn't advertising something? ¦ Reisio 21:25, 21 September 2005 (UTC)
can someone tell me wich programmes we see in the dock on the screenshot ?
- From left to right: Finder, Dashboard, Safari, Mail.app, iChat AV, Address Book, Text Edit, Microsoft Word, (can't make this one out), (can't tell), Dictionary, (can't tell), Keynote, iCal, iTunes, iPhoto, iMovie HD, (can't tell), Photoshop, (can't tell), what's-it-called-Flash-editor, (can't tell), Garageband, Skype, BZFlag, (can't tell), Messenger for Mac, the Acid2 test?, (can't tell), Quicktime, (5 that I can't make out), Virtual PC?, XCode, (can't tell)m Terminal.app, (4 system utilities), and some Adobe app. That's it up to the bar. Is that good enough for you? By the way, any else is free to fill in what I forgot. [[User:Stalefries|Stale Fries [[User Talk:Stalefries|Taste Better]]]] 22:50, 8 March 2007 (UTC)
[edit] CJK integration
I remember that Illustrator 7 had separate US and "Japanese" versions. But CS has all the "Japanese" features (actually usable for all CJK, just that the terminology would need some time getting used to) already integrated.
Does anyone know when they started to make a Japanese version, and since which version the CJK functionality is integrated into the mainstream Illustrator product? —Wing 02:50, 12 October 2005 (UTC)
[edit] Version History Plans
I'm thinking of adding another column to the version history table to include a brief list of the major features that first appeared in each version. I will need to do some double-checking first to make sure that I get it right. A lot of them I remember, since I worked on them, but it's been a long time, and I don't want to rely on just my memory. I have all the major Mac versions installed, but not the early Win versions.
By the way to whoever posted the comment about the earliest Windows version not supporting color graphics while the earliest Mac version purportedly did, that's not true. Neither Illustrator 1.0 nor Illustrator 1.1 supported color _displays_. They both supported the assignment of color attributes to objects, but color illustrations were previewed in black & white. Illustrator 88 was the first version to support color preview. Illustrator 88 and Illustrator 2 were under development concurrently, and the Windows magazine article was probably comparing 2.0, which did not preview color, with version 88. In most respects Illustrator 2 was a port of 1.1, but it did include support for spot color inks, clipping masks, and several other features which did not appear in 1.1.
In most respects the Windows version tended to lag behind the Mac version until the code bases were merged, but in one respect the Windows version was a pioneer: Illustrator 4 for Windows was the first version to allow editing in preview mode. The Mac did not have that capability until version 5.
By the way, thanks to whoever wrote the bulk of this article. I couldn't really tell from the edit history.
-- Teri Pettit 06:12, 29 October 2005 (UTC)
Some info on the format ".ai" is welcome , are there opensource filters ?
I recall Illustrator 88 as being far more important than the version history currently suggests. In the UK, it was the version that was being sold in the important 1989-90 period when the NGA print union stopped 'blacking' layouts created by non-union labour, ie designers and journalists. These people rapidly started using inhouse Macs instead of outside typesetters, and if they chose Illustrator rather than Aldus FreeHand, then they'd have learned the 88 version first. As I recall illustrator 88 went through about 24 update revisions, sent out on floppy every month or so, before the more stabilised Illustrator 3 was launched. Simoneccles 00:04, 5 February 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Not John Warnock in the Illustrator 1.1 Video?
I have the video that accompanied Adobe Illustrator 1.1 (aka Illustrator '88), apparently produced by Pedersen Associates in San Francisco. The host/narrator is clearly not John Warnock, unless he managed to become 20 years younger during production. I've digitized this video for my own amusement if anyone would like a frame or two for reference.
Is there another video out there or is this something I should go ahead and change? — Derekmw 01:49, 13 June 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Loss of early version discussion
"Illustrator 1.1" was not "aka Illustrator 88", they are two completely different versions. The "Meet Adobe Illustrator" videotape introduced by John is dated 1987. Is that the one you have? There was a different video that came with Illustrator 88. Teri Pettit 01:44, 21 April 2007 (UTC)
On 10 Nov 2006 someone vandalized this page by replacing several of the history sections with profanity, and in removing the vandalism, rather than doing a revert, the fixer just removed the profanities, causing a probably unintentional deletion of the discussions of Illustrator 88, Illustrator 3, and versions 8 through 10. With those omissions, it now appears that version 2 immediately followed version 1.1, which is not true (88 came between them.) I would like to restore most of the sections that got accidentally removed. Any objections? Teri Pettit 02:35, 21 April 2007 (UTC)
Teri, I think you should just go ahead and make the changes. I was thinking it might be nice to add lists of contributors to each version to this article and maybe splash screen art for each version as well. Comments? --Darin Tomack 22:41, 8 August 2007 (UTC)
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BetacommandBot 05:20, 16 September 2007 (UTC)
Resolved.
