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Where is the right place?

At http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Administrator_intervention_against_vandalism&diff=212853633&oldid=212853280

someone removed my entry because it 'would be the wrong place here'.

So where is the right place? The reported IP removed content from an article with the explanation it would have been unsourced or original research. But in fact he removed the text of a link and the link that was in the article unchallenged for a long time. (And originally not added by me.)

This removing from this "anonymous" editor happened to a site with very low number of editors for months. But it occured after a change from an admin some hours before.

Interestingly, this anonymous edit removed any connection in the article to the content that was before removed by that admin.

The article is "Sarah_Wiener" on the English wikipedia.

SO: Where is the "right place"?

It's clearly vandalism to remove content without valid explanation. 82.113.106.16 (talk) 16:28, 16 May 2008 (UTC)

The talk page of the article would be a great place to start. Not for "reporting", of course, but for discussing. The IP's talk page might be another. --barneca (talk) 16:29, 16 May 2008 (UTC)
First thing I did was to write on the person's User-Page of that admin. Without answering and without any explanation in the edit summary he reverted the page. To ask an "anonymous" IP if it's used in a malicious way to hide one's identity doesn'T seem to be a idea likely to have any success, does it? :P
Beside here it's the same thing. The person who said this would not be the "right place" didn't give any answer. But if I would readd the request to the page, I'm sure he would remove it again.
Especially sad about that article is that the manipulation is very likely not primarily triggered by Users who are fans or people in any way interested in the article's person, but rather people who try to suppress information about the animal mistreatment for Foie Grass product. Searching in the Foie Grass article and related articles will bring up many similiar bad behaviour where any criticism is deleted, and the authors of any kind of criticisms are insulted with foul words.
So: The reason I suspect the admin who seems to be from Germany initially edited the article is one of the commons downfalls of wikipedia: Admins who are just to easily ready to support any friend or comrade they made, regardless if the admin has any real own knowledge or interest in the topic of the article.
That sort of failure is often mentioned on wikipedia for years now. Even on Mr. J. Wales talk page. It's always the same for years.
82.113.121.16 (talk) 20:35, 16 May 2008 (UTC)

IP Address Block Question

I'm using "block" in the networking sense here - there's a block of IPs being used for alternating vandalism edits on (for now) Guns N' Roses (note edits by .185, .186, and .188). Any advice how to deal with this would be appreciated.  Frank  |  talk  21:20, 20 May 2008 (UTC)

Generally speaking, you pretty much have three choices:
  • Report all of the addresses to WP:AIV stating that they are all being used to vandalize the same article. This method has the advantage of being quick and easy, not just for you, but also the admin processing your AIV report.
  • Request at WP:RFPP that the page in question be protected in order to prevent the vandalism. This method is the simplist.
  • Report to WP:AN/I that a range of IPs need to be blocked, and include a lot of diffs as evidence.
Good luck! --Kralizec! (talk) 22:48, 20 May 2008 (UTC)
Thanks for your response. As it happens, the disruptive edits stopped right about as I asked the question, so at this point, no particular action is appropriate. Still, it's nice to know what the options are; it seems a slightly unusual case. Regards -  Frank  |  talk  01:03, 21 May 2008 (UTC)

Can't put my report on the regular page

So here it is:

[[1]] aka [[2]] aka talk) aka. (talk) continues to abuse Dave Zirin and Banned substances in baseball -- Doesn't care his edits are not POV - Will not discuss on talk page - Has been making these edits for a month now on various IPs —Preceding unsigned comment added by Editor437 (talk • contribs) 09:09, 27 May 2008 (UTC)

User: LIZZYYYYY

This user created a page (ThsRedSkyBreaks) which I tagged as db-nonsense, but I can't warn the user on the talk page (User talk:LIZZYYYYY), as it says the page title is blacklisted. I have never run into this before and I'm not sure what to do. —BradV 19:59, 28 May 2008 (UTC)

I've blocked the account. PhilKnight (talk) 20:04, 28 May 2008 (UTC)
Thanks. —BradV 20:07, 28 May 2008 (UTC)
To clarify for other readers here, a run of really mindless vandalism (heartbreakingly, the person behind it thinks s/he's being clever) has led to a tightening of the blacklist so that certain pages cannot be created. This is sort-of intentional, but impacts on you if you wish to warn or welcome a new user. For the time being, the best we can offer appears to be "report it to an admin" and let admins make the warning etc. ➨ ЯEDVEЯS used to be a sweet boy 19:34, 3 June 2008 (UTC)

Question

What's the order to insert your report? Latest at the bottom (like AN) or latest at the top like Requested moves? I put my report at the top; but others did the opposite. I'm sorry if I was wrong, but it would be smart to insert a hidden comment on the editing page explaining this. Thanks. Do U(knome)? yes...|or no · 15:00, 3 June 2008 (UTC)

At the bottom, if you'd be so kind! Pedro :  Chat  15:02, 3 June 2008 (UTC)
Generally on Wikipedia, assume that you need to put stuff at the bottom of a page, unless the page tells you otherwise. But perfection is not something people here assume (in theory), so the world doesn't come to a stop if you get it wrong. ➨ ЯEDVEЯS used to be a sweet boy 19:29, 3 June 2008 (UTC)
To be honest, when working here, I start at the bottom of the list anyway, to minimize the edit conflicts I get with other admins all reviewing the same case at the same time. So as Redvers says, it doesn't matter too much. --barneca (talk) 19:36, 3 June 2008 (UTC)
I do that too. Of course, if too many of us take that approach, it defeats the purpose. :) Doczilla STOMP! 22:13, 3 June 2008 (UTC)
Hence why I start in the middle ..... :) Pedro :  Chat  22:14, 3 June 2008 (UTC)
And I look at any registered users first, wherever they are in the list. I guess we all have our own way of doing it. Kafziel Complaint Department 22:36, 3 June 2008 (UTC)
Using multiple approaches is best in this case. It lowers the odds of simultaneously working on the same one. Sometimes when it looks like several admins are busy working on reports, I'll quickly remove the one I'm working on and post an edit summary which says, "removing while I investigate". Doczilla STOMP! 00:11, 4 June 2008 (UTC)
So long as you make the report, I don't think it really matters... board moves too fast to worry about these things, and it should be as easy and quick as possible to make a report, anyway. :) That said, adding to the bottom is probably easiest, I think. – Luna Santin (talk) 02:40, 5 June 2008 (UTC)
Yes, if you're reporting manually, almost the only possible way to do it without 85 edit conflicts is to use the "+" button to add a "section" to the bottom. Unfortunately, you have to do so with a blank edit summary, or else a heading also shows up. --barneca (talk) 02:43, 5 June 2008 (UTC)

Should I report this person?

He/she has created the same page three times, apparently. This user has been warned three times. Should I report him/her? Lunakeet 00:09, 5 June 2008 (UTC)

Yes, that's perfectly reasonable. An admin will look into the matter more closely to see if it merits a block, but that certainly merits a report. --Masamage ♫ 00:20, 5 June 2008 (UTC)