Talk:Admiral (United Kingdom)

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[edit] Admiral of the Red/Blue

There are a number of redirects to this article such as: Admiral of the Red Admiral of the Blue Vice Admiral of the Blue etc.

None of them are explined in the article and I was intrested in the hisotry of the Ranks/Titles or whatever they are. Does anyone know enough about it to add it to the article or am I better off asking google? Dalf | Talk 02:48, 8 March 2006 (UTC)

Um...all of those ranks are already explained in the article. There is in fact a list of the various Admirals and thier colors (or, as the English say..colours...you guys are wierd). -Husnock 03:05, 8 March 2006 (UTC)
So it is I got lost in a sea of redirects and articles and ended up comminting here apparently withouth looking at the article properly. I did read several others and thought I was there I guess. my confusion came from the fact that Vice Admiral of the Blue and Rear Admiral of the Blue both redirect to Admiral which does not mention them instead of here. I actually had thought that I was commenting there and did not realise that I had managed to arrive at the right place afterall. Are those redirects pointing at the right article. Dalf | Talk 06:20, 8 March 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Badge of Rank

The shoulder badge shown in the article is wrong: three stars designate a Vice-Admiral. For a "full" Admiral, there should be four stars. See: http://www.royal-navy.mod.uk/server/show/conMediaFile.21093 212.152.20.48 (talk • contribs) 19:11, 7 April 2007 (UTC)

When did the UK switch to French/US-style stars? I always thought they used the pattern where 1 star = Rear Admiral... 118.90.114.226 (talk) 10:04, 20 March 2008 (UTC)
In the (mid?) 1990s. Pdfpdf (talk) 12:27, 20 March 2008 (UTC)

The following is copied from Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Military history:

[edit] Admiral's shoulderboards - Commonwealth Navies

Some time in the last 20 years (maybe 5 or 10), the Australian and British Navies changed the shoulder boards of Rear Admiral, Vice Admiral and Admiral from containing 1, 2 and 3 stars to containing 2, 3 and 4 stars. (Refer http://www.royalnavy.mod.uk/server/show/ConWebDoc.6020/changeNav/3533 and http://www.navy.gov.au/general/ranks.html) Can anyone tell me when this happened? If you can point me to some references, that would be useful too. Thanks in advance, Pdfpdf (talk) 12:34, 15 March 2008 (UTC)

If you badly want to know, you can send an email to Gieves and Hawkes, the naval officers' tailors in Savile Row, London. (They made Nelson's uniforms and still provide them for the royal family.) They will know and be able to tell you which warrant, if any, is applicable. --ROGER DAVIES talk 08:03, 16 March 2008 (UTC)
I think it was when Commodore was made a substantive rank, some time in the late 90s I think? Commodore is the One star rank, hence altering the boards.
ALR (talk) 12:26, 16 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Citation Chill Pill Needed

I can certainly see and respect the need for citations in instances actually in accordance with the policy - statements that are "dubious or sufficiently controversial" ...but come on. In the case of this short article, I find myself a bit surprised by the end of it that the rogue editor hasn't demanded independent proof of the very existence of this alleged "Royal Navy", or the so-called "ocean" they supposedly plied. As only the most egregious example... Isn't the rank of Nelson at death pretty well a matter of common knowledge and/or at least public record? 208.54.14.114 (talk) 02:58, 19 December 2007 (UTC)Honor