Talk:Adiabatic flame temperature

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[edit] Original research

This page seems to contain many unpublished calculations by one author. Seems well written, but may be outside of wikipedia standards for original research. Vaudeville (talk) 18:57, 4 January 2008 (UTC)

    • The author Mig8tr added several figures on 15:56, 19 March 2006 that do not cite external sources and, based on following the external link at the bottom, are clearly the author's own calculations that were added to the page, using the author's own equilibrium code. Although the results seem reasonable, this would seem to qualify be original research. Here is a statement from this author's webpage http://www.depcik.com/eduprograms/aftp.htm :

"Adiabatic Flame Temperature at Wikipedia - I am currently updating the free encyclopedia Wikipedia with respect to this topic using my AFTP program. I hope that web users will find this content interesting and helpful."

Thus is seems clear that this author is doing original calculations specifically for this page. Is this original research? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.231.147.48 (talk) 18:16, 6 January 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Questions about flame temperature

We have a number of questions about flame energy and temperature on Talk:Oxyhydrogen#Enthalpy and Talk:Atomic hydrogen welding due to some dubious claims made about a certain welding process ("our flame is hot enough to vaporize tungsten!") We welcome any input from people who are familiar with the processes and calculations. — Omegatron 19:52, 27 January 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Maximum possible temperature

The adiabatic flame temperature is *not* the maximum possible temperature of a combustible mixture. Since the assumption in the calculation is that the system is in chemical equilibrium, the calculation tells one nothing about possible non-equilibrium states. Indeed several very rich methane and acetylene flames have been shown to exceed their adiabatic flame temperatures by large amounts (see papers with "superadiabatic" in the title, especially the work of Lucht at UIUC, Capelli at Stanford, Glumac at Rutgers, and Kennedy at UIC). 20304A (talk) 20:34, 7 February 2008 (UTC)20304A