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[edit] Requested move

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposal. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. No further edits should be made to this section.

The result of the debate was NO CONSENSUS to move page, per discussin below. -GTBacchus(talk) 22:42, 16 February 2007 (UTC)

Adelie Penguin → Adélie Penguin — Correct species name contains an acute accent over the first "e." --Uthabiti 06:51, 10 February 2007 (UTC) copied from WP:RM Bobblehead 23:09, 10 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Survey

Add  # '''Support'''  or  # '''Oppose'''  on a new line in the appropriate section followed by a brief explanation, then sign your opinion using ~~~~. Please remember that this survey is not a vote, and please provide an explanation for your recommendation.

[edit] Survey - in support of the move

[edit] Survey - in opposition to the move

  1. Oppose. Just another example of a misbelief that just because something can be spelled with non-English characters, it should be spelled with non-English characters on English Wikipedia. Gene Nygaard 20:46, 12 February 2007 (UTC)
  2. Oppose. Exactly what Gene said. Plus 'most common' - 73k hits sans accent - trumps whatever is deemed to be "correct" - 2k hits. 76.22.4.86 00:44, 13 February 2007 (UTC)
  3. Oppose using the same argument that Gene Nygaard used. Voretus 20:04, 14 February 2007 (UTC)
  4. Oppose same reasoning as Gene Nygaard.Euge246 (talk) 02:01, 14 April 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Discussion

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It is, of course, Pygoscelis adeliae which is the international, language-indepedent version. Gene Nygaard 20:56, 12 February 2007 (UTC)

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on this talk page. No further edits should be made to this section.

[edit] Argentinean accents?

>> Adélie penguins appeared in the film Happy Feet, with Argentinean accents.

Argentinean accents? I don't think so. Their accents were variations on the Chicano style. Very different if you're familiar with both. I've read that Robin Williams has claimed that his accent was supposed to be Argentinean but he's also acknowledged never having been to Argentina. His accent was a little hard to pin down (Williams tends to shift voice a lot, even within the same character) but the supporting Latino voices (Carlos Alazraqui, Johnny Sanchez III, Jeff Garcia and Lombardo Boyar) definitely all sounded distinctly Chicano / East L.A.. Interestingly Carlos was actually born and raised in California by Argentine parents but at least in this role did not sound Argentine at all. Thought I would point this out since Argentines tend to be a bit sensitive to the American tendency to stereotype Latinos.

New 13:03, 10 March 2007 (UTC)

Just drop the "accents" bit entirely - unless you have a movie producer saying "yes, we deliberately went for X accents", it would be sheer speculation on our part. Let's just stick to the verifiable facts. Stan 13:51, 10 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Penguin habitats

It is not correct to say that only 2 types of penguin live on the Antarctic mainland. I have observed Gentoo and Chinstraps living on the Antarctic peninsula and the comment should be revised to reflect what is trying to be said acurately. 89.168.41.213 22:16, 18 March 2007 (UTC)james Bartosik, james@bartosik.org89.168.41.213 22:16, 18 March 2007 (UTC)

How do we know you're not making this up? For that matter, we don't even know who you really are. Now if you have a published reference, not just unverifiable anecdotes, we're interested. Stan 02:10, 19 March 2007 (UTC)

I am going to go ahead and change the incorrect statement that Adelie's and emporer are the only 2 penguins living on the mainland. I have been to Antarctica and seen Gentoo's living on the mainland, at many sites. For example: http://bartosik.org/scrapbook/antarctica/paradise-bay.htm . If at some point in the future someone want to come up with a correctly sourced fact with evidence as to which exact species do live on the mainland that can be altered. James Bartosik, 14/08/07.

[edit] fact check please

60-70cm long and only 4 kg? can someone verify that? 71.222.143.231 01:51, 7 April 2007 (UTC)

That's generally what the sources say. They're still birds, so they're going to be light for their size. Stan 13:05, 7 April 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Environmental threats

Is it true that Adelie penguins are moving closer to the South Pole because their colonies are suffering increased temperatures? Have their numbers been reduced by unusual early season storms that smother their stone nests with snow? Has their rate of breeding declined? Has a huge iceberg broken from the Ross ice shelf blocked access of some Adelie colonies to the sea thus threatening them with starvation? I've read all these things from unverified sources but would like to see some authentic and well-documented scientific discussion of any environmental changes affecting the survival of Adelie penguins. Tez123 03:05, 2 May 2007 (UTC)tez123

[edit] Tux the Penquin

Worth mentioning that he is based upon the adele penguin. It is already in the Tux article...Spacedwarv 15:46, 12 July 2007 (UTC)

Sure, add it under popular culture. Bendž|Ť 15:49, 12 July 2007 (UTC)
Done. If one can think of anything else, add it. Not sure what can be said though..Spacedwarv 16:14, 13 July 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Adele?

I have seen it written Adele, and when searching, it was very confusing yo find that they didn;t have a page on adele penguins. maybe we can make a redirect? --Onceonthisisland 15:33, 25 July 2007 (UTC)

I just did that myself. --Onceonthisisland 19:29, 1 August 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Possible sources from The Antarctic Adelie Penguin

I don't know if someone wants to investigate those, but they seem the remainder of valuable information from the to-be-merged article:

I'm going to complete the merge now. --Alvestrand (talk) 07:25, 27 November 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Lifespan

Need life expectancy of this species. Badagnani (talk) 05:42, 2 May 2008 (UTC)