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[edit] Name of city

Addis Ababa is an Amharic name of the city. The original name is Finfinne. User:172.162.147.208

This is mentioned in the "History" section. I removed the parentheses. I've also added a bit about the recent decision to move the Oromia capital from Adama back to Addis. -- Gyrofrog (talk) 05:51, 24 Jun 2005 (UTC)
Actually Finfinne was originally a separate city from Addis Abeba (a more correct spelling), but was eventually incorporated by the latter's spread. I can't find a source very quickly, so I might be wrong, though.
Yom 22:23, 12 February 2006 (UTC)

The official spelling of Addis Ababa is actually Addis Ababa, the reference made to the Ethiopian Mapping institute is actually wrong. it should be (sometimes spelled as Addis Abeba unofficially.  ::Nolawip

Are we going to do something about the spelling?::Nolawip

Finfinne is the Oromo name of the locality where the hot "finfinne mineral springs" were located" near the river of the same name. There was no city at this place before Empress Taytu built her house near the springs which she liked to use for therapudic bathing. The city was born on this locality and spread across the entire hilly plateau that included the Kebena, Akaki and Finfinne rivers. Finfinne was the small district around what is know today in Amharic as "Fil woha" or "Boiling Water" district of the capital, extending up to the old Imperial Palace, and down through the National/Jubilee Palace to Maskal Square. Other parts of the modern city of Addis Ababa had other names such as Kolfe, Arada, Kotebe etc. In recent years, Oromos have insisted on refering to the entire city as Finfinne, in recognition of the fact that the city was established in a locality by that name.

[edit] Population?

This article states 2,757,729 and "four million" as the population of Addis Ababa. Which is correct?  :: Salvo (talk) 12:37, 10 February 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Page Move

Yom, in my opinion, you should have sought consensus for such a move. I believe I read on some other page where someone else (Gyrofrog?) was also advising you to seek consensus first. There is a fairly rigid policy on Wikipedia about using the normal English spelling, which is Addis Ababa. I also prefer this spelling. I realise of course that Addis Abeba is a more accurate phonetic representation. One reason many people find it objectionable is because that is the Italian spelling, and the one always seen on Italian maps of Italian East Africa. So I would prefer to see the article returned to Addis Ababa, and you could always follow procedure and put up a "Requested page move", where people have a certain number of days to vote on the issue. With regards, ፈቃደ (ውይይት) 18:32, 16 February 2006 (UTC)
I think it may have been BanyanTree who brought it up. But I'd like to weigh in and suggest that "Addis Ababa", in spite of the inaccuracy, is a better name for this article. I occasionally see "Addis Abeba" in English but FWIW I see the wrong spelling much more often. I think it would have been better to simply explain the spelling issue in the article itself. -- Gyrofrog (talk) 19:21, 16 February 2006 (UTC)
An additional problem is that even official Ethiopian documents in English do not spell the name of this city -- or many Ethiopian place names -- consistently. I have my suspicions why this is so, but for whatever reason this is an important point. -- llywrch 17:07, 21 February 2006 (UTC)
User:Codex Sinaiticus is quite right. Most people avoid using the more phonetically correct form of "Addis Abeba" because it is how the Italians prefered to spell it. Considering that the fascists committed mass murder in the city, it is not suprising that Ethiopians would reject this form and prefer Addis Ababa. Infact most Addis Ababans prefer to contract the name and call it "Addis Aba" (the b is pronounced softly). Sendeq 18:50 May 4, 2006

[edit] Recent additions

Feqade (Codex) recently reverted the edits of User:Classof2006smr, but I'm not sure we should revert them wholesale. The only nonsense seems to be his claim that Haile Selassie was a Rastafarian; while there's a lot of irrelavant information in there (often times more appropriate for the Italian East Africa article or History of Ethiopia), there's plenty of information that can and should be incorporated (provided we can specifcally find the sources he uses, aside from just putting "United Nations." The urbanization and population growth was taken from here. The Climate info comes from the FDRE (which we're already using), while the Topography comes from here, which is a subsection of the Library of Congress's country study on Ethiopia (so reliable). The University info (as well as the irrelevant Primary & Secondary schools) seems to come from Wikipedia articles on the subject (as does the Merkato info); the Dembel City center info comes from an Addis Tribune article, which is a reliable newspaper.

I think we should examine more of the additions, affirm that they are germane and correct, and slowly incorporate them.

Yom 19:47, 13 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Economy?

Economy section is all wrong. Farming is done outside of the city. The customers live in the city. The section needs to be changed. --McTrixie 11:39, 13 October 2006 (UTC)


[edit] Article Expansion

It is time for this article to be expanded. I want to start by adding the information (in a more presentable form and not all at once) from my earlier update. Feel free to critque it in any way productive way you feel, but remember that this article needs more information.

Classof2006smr 19:45, 2 June 2007 (UTC)

That's fine. Most of your information was good, but it also had many errors (such as stating that Haile Selassie was Rastafarian). It would be best to add them one at a time per section with copy-editing of the earlier addition, rather than replacing large sections of texts. — ዮም | (Yom) | Talk • contribs • Ethiopia 19:51, 2 June 2007 (UTC)
Of course. My first post was merely an amateur test of adding to this page. Although I still can be considered a beginner in regards to making or editing articles, I think that with some effort it shouldn't be too hard. I will be sure to add to the article piece by piece. Classof2006smr 06:32, 6 June 2007 (UTC)


I do dispute most of the facts in this article, but I am a Novice in wiki, how do I make edits to the article! meaning is there information on disputing facts? etc Nolawip —Preceding unsigned comment added by Nolawip (talk • contribs) 15:33, 20 September 2007 (UTC)

When you're at the article page, click the button at the top that says "edit this page." If you want to narrow down the area you are editing, you can click on the small blue [edit] buttons at the top of each section. As for disputing facts, if the fact is cited with a reliable source, then you can add the {{dubious}} tag at the end of the sentence and explain why you added it on the talk page. If it is uncited altogether, you can either remove it, or add {{cn}} at the end of the sentence (alternatively {{fact}}), meaning "citation needed" (which is what will appear in superscript at the end of the sentence). — ዮም | (Yom) | Talk • contribs • Ethiopia 23:37, 25 September 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Government

The Government section should really be about the structure and nature of Addis's city council, etc. Currently it's a short article about former mayor, Arkebe Oqubay. Is he maybe worthy of his own Wikipedia entry too? Dancarney 13:29, 25 September 2007 (UTC)

Yes, he does, he was its mayor for a while, as well as a senior member of the TPLF. He did originally have his own article, but because it remained a stub for a long time, it was deleted and the information merged into this article. — ዮም | (Yom) | Talk • contribs • Ethiopia 23:37, 25 September 2007 (UTC)

Looking good. Thanks for those who made the change on the Spelling. ::Nolawip —Preceding comment was added at 22:14, 21 February 2008 (UTC)