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I have reworked the Philosophy of action article, but I cannot move it, as necessary, to "Action theory". Please do so if you can. A merger with Action (Philosophy) should not be undertaken any more. What I left in Action (Philosophy) concerns definitional issues which should not be deleted but are not of immediate concern to action theory.--Dhh28 22:19, 18 June 2006 (UTC)

Please don't add more and more scholars names instead of providing substantial information. In my opinion, scholars without individual Wikipedia entry should not be included, since this is about providing prioritised information, not information overkill.Dhh28 22:55, 1 December 2006 (UTC)


[edit] Action Theory

I think this article and Philosophy of Action should be merged to "Action Theory" which is what the field seems to be called based on the links from SEP. Yesterdog 05:41, 26 April 2006 (UTC)

[edit] older stuff

It appears that my single best-attributed article was removed by those who claim that the field doesn't exist, LDC and Sanger. So much for the theory that citation and attribution matters. This article is almost pure quotes, and now I expect to hear more absurd objection from the inferior intellects 24

Out of charity, I have heard certain body-hating militant queer or anti-queer philosophers, deny that this field exists, some of them even proposing to "do away with body" by such means as "downloading" into predictable and immortal robot bodies, etc., a common goal of Extropians and gollums seeking to build "artificial intelligence" without a mother. So, the terror of this field and its insights is not one that is wholly confined to LDC and Sanger... or any other couple. 24

The following was removed:

A more fundamental school of body philosophers are usually associated with advocacy, especially of feminism or postmodernism, but are difficult to characterize in philosophers' terms. Advocates often reject the traditional division into ethics, epistemology and metaphysics - as did the American [William James]?.

24 has all but admitted that the term "body philosopher" was invented by him. So it has to be cut.

It is often the advocates view that it is insensible to consider seeing, saying, or doing without the bodies that perform these actions. The broader more generally accepted (circa 2002) critique that is concerned with the impact of language and society on body in general is usually called postmodernism - but it could be said to include many of the theories covered here.

What advocates are we talking about here? Advocates for what?

Out of respect or at least interest in an emerging field and for the interested local users and contributors; this material is further developed below in conformance with our local NPOV policy.

There doesn't seem to be an emerging field of this title, since the 2002 conference about Philosophy of Action doesn't mention body philosophy, postmodernism, feminism or any of those fields that 24 wishes to connect. AxelBoldt, Friday, April 12, 2002

Although 24 seems to have a rather uninformed view of philosophy, there is a great deal of work being done nowadays in what is better called embodied philosophy of mind; many cognitive scientists and philosophers do take seriously the view that many or most facts about action, perception, and thought, are inseparable from facts about the body they take place in. (Andy Clark and John Haugeland are just a couple of examples here.) But these are actual scholars, not "feminists and postmodernists."

This article needs to be rewritten by someone who knows what Philosophy of action is. KSchutte 5 July 2005 05:39 (UTC)

What is the relationship between neurosciences and philosophy of actions ? What can philosophy of actions brings to the scientific study of the neurological processes determining action ? I don't see how philosophy can help here.

Guillaume777 21:50, 7 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Philosophy of action

Hi I'm from the continental, po-mo side of philosophy, but the stuff added here because it supposedly has something to do with 'action' simply should not be here - the philosophy of action is a well-defined area. I am going to delete everything here not to do with the analytical philosophy of action, which is what I was looking at this article for informtation on. This should satisfy KSchutte. By the way, K, when you listed this page for deletion, you failed to add it to the VFD page, which has meant that no-one has seen or voted on your nomination.XmarkX 00:55, 10 July 2005 (UTC)

Having actually looked at the page it appears that almost all of it was written by a known troll, now banned from Wikipedia. I've reverted it to a stub.XmarkX 01:00, 10 July 2005 (UTC)
I'm pretty new to this game. Hypothetically, how does one add to the VFD page? KSchutte 06:49, 11 July 2005 (UTC)
Sadly these days it has become relatively complicated - if you go to Wikipedia: Votes for Deletion, the instructions for posting are there at the top of the page. This VFD would never have been passed however - VFD is reserved for when there should not be an article on a topic at all59.167.27.65 08:25, 17 July 2005 (UTC)XmarkX 08:26, 17 July 2005 (UTC)