Talk:ACT New Zealand

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[edit] term "liberal"

"Because the term "liberal" can have such a great variety of meanings, however, some New Zealanders would not consider ACT's use of it to be accurate."

- Isn't this statement contradictory? If a word has a variety of meanings, either each is in a way accurate, or none is. I'm sure that any use of the word "liberal" can be disputed.

I see what you mean. What I was trying to say with that sentence, however, was that not everyone accepts every definition of "liberal" as valid - there are people who consider ACT's use of "liberal" to be incorrect, rather than merely a different way of looking at the word. My goal in including that sentence was basically to convey that some people do not consider ACT a liberal party under any valid definition, despite its self-description as such. -- Vardion 23:21, 5 Sep 2004 (UTC)

[edit] Selected ACT Slogans

I don't think we need this section either - Drstuey 00:58, 27 August 2005 (UTC)

Yeah, it doesn't really seem relevant. I've removed it. -- FP <talk><edits> 01:05, August 27, 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Association of Consumers and Taxpayers

I noticed that an article exists on the Association. It is not notable enough to justify its own article guys. Considering that Catherine Judd sought to establish a new "Douglas Institute" to promote neo-liberal thought, it is fair to say that the Association does not really exist except in the minds of a few. Thus it isn't significant enough to really exist. I was bold and did this move. If you disagree, lets discuss it before re-establishing it. Unfortunately Varidon is out of the country for about a year, as s/he created the article. --Midnighttonight 07:32, 28 March 2006 (UTC)


[edit] anyone here not from the act party?

in the NZ context "centre right?"??? how about far right

noticable important opposition party?????? yeah with rodney on dancing with the stars and that other person with 0 NZ name recogntion doing some army thing

honestly one of the worst parts of wikipedia is these small groups with complete control over articles describing themselves. How about half of you go over and vandalise the labour party article and ask on the talk page for some of them to come over and help you out with your propaganda piece.

your article should reflect the NZ public as as whole's perception of the act party. Most NZers would think of ACT as 'far right business round table stooges'-(labour supporters) or a tolerated, small appendage of the national party- (National supporters)

oooooh how about Stephen Franks criticisms of the 2002 law and order debate in the context of his parties market theology, yeah if you sell TVNZ it would totally adopt the public service ethos it doesnt realise as a privatised crown owned company

In my opinion ACT standing for 'individual freedom' and 'personal responsibility' is a bit POV, the language accepts the ACT party policy unchallenged.

Please respond on the talk page


From the Neoliberalism article

The term "neoliberalism" is used to describe a variety of movements away from state control or protection of the economy, particularly beginning in the 1970s. The term neoliberalism is not the only one for this movement, many supporters argue that it is simply "liberalism," while critics (along with some supporters) often label it Thatcherism (United Kingdom), Reaganomics (United States of America), Economic Rationalism (Australia), Rogernomics (New Zealand) or Manmohanomics (India). Because of close association between this philosophy and neoclassical economics, and confusion with the ambiguous term "liberal," some advocate the term "neoclassical philosophy."

Rogernomics (New Zealand)

how about ACT party classified as neoliberal and connect to that article rather than the other liberalism article

I think

Supporters claim that ACT is one of the more noticeable opposition parties, known for its frequent and vociferous criticism of the government. Critics of the party sometimes claim that ACT is more interested in scoring political points and gaining media exposure than in participating in constructive dialogue. Many of its rank-and-file members are also perceived to have more in common with neo-conservatism than classical liberalism. Peron, "The New Anti-PC Problem" Supporters, however, say that ACT "keeps the government honest", and ensures accountability.

Is pretty damn POV

so supporters claim but critics sometimes claim

wow mayby you could improve it with critics are sometimes thought of as considering the possibility of claiming......

I agree that the article lacks balance, but please cite whereever possible. If you look at the changes I've just made, you'll see that I've used a very method of making footnotes, by surrounding the footnote text with <ref name="blah">footnote text</ref>.-gadfium 20:06, 14 June 2006 (UTC)