Talk:Acoustic scale

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I have tagged the article as not providing sufficient context for the following reasons:

• The phrase "symmetrically balanced sections, especially periods" doesn't mean much to me.
• The reference to the golden section links only to the mathematical ratio, and does not provide any clue as to how it applies to music.
• The table describes the golden section as "chromatic, dynamic, close, circular" and other such words with no explanation as to why this should be the case. It seems to have been copied from a source without providing any accompanying explanation.

It would be better if this article was written in a more encyclopedic manner, as well. Instead, it reads like opinion of one or two musical analysts.

--Rhebus 21:05, 21 November 2006 (UTC)

i believe there should be an explanation of the difference between the acoustic scale and the lydian dominant used is jazz, if there is any (the answer is obviously unkown to me), as they both seem to consist of the same notes. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 212.205.217.148 (talk) 15:24, 24 November 2007 (UTC)

There are a few problems with this article. First, the use of the "acoustic scale" goes back much farther than Lendvai -- it appears in Liszt, and was one of Debussy's favorite scales. Second, as mentioned above, the scale plays a major role in jazz, which isn't discussed at all. Third, the discussion here spends too much time on the particular theories of Erno Lendvai. This is misleading, as the acoustic scale is found in the music of a range of composers, many predating Bartok. The current discussion of golden sections, different rhythmic practices, etc., really belongs in an article on Lendvai's theories of Bartok, not in a general article on the acoustic scale itself. (Also, note that Lendvai's theories are very controversial; he's not considered a reliable source by professional theorists -- see, for instance, the review of his book in the Journal of Music Theory.) Njarl (talk) 14:19, 12 April 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Proposition for merge with Lydian dominant scale

Both scales are the same and I think both articles have enough information between them to form a reliable single one. Any thoughts? ArdClose (talk) 18:51, 29 May 2008 (UTC)