Talk:Acoma Pueblo

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Parenthetical remark: Here I see the utility of the parenthetical AKA in other languages. I'm not opposed to the whole idea when it's used correctly, as I believe it is here. I would value any other input you have, Node, as you clearly have pretty good knowledge of Native culture and language. --ABQCat 01:27, 13 Dec 2004 (UTC)

  1. Is the Keresan of the Acoma the same as Western Keresan?
  2. Was there contact between the Zuni and the Acoma? Trading for example? Otherwise it seems silly to include as an AKA.
--ABQCat 02:07, 13 Dec 2004 (UTC)
  1. In a way it is ("Western Keresan" is more inclusive): Western Keresan refers to the Keresan spoken at Acoma (Ako), Laguna (Kawaika), as well as a few unrecognised pueblos, and Eastern Keresan refers to the Keresan of Cochiti (Kotyit), San Felipe (Katstya), Santa Ana (Tamaiya), Santo Domingo (called Kyiwa by locals, called Tyiwa by other Eastern Keresan speakers), and Zia (Tsi'ya). I'm not sure if the people are actually different, but I know their languages are significantly different.
  2. Yes, there are trade contacts as noted by brian0918. --Node 04:23, 13 Dec 2004 (UTC)
1: Western Keresan was spoken at Acoma and Laguna , and Eastern Keresan, at San Felipe , Santa Ana , Sia, Cochiti, and Santo Domingo.
2: It appears that they did trade, across the appropriately-named Zuni-Acoma Trail. --[[User:Brian0918|brian0918 talk]] 02:33, 13 Dec 2004 (UTC)

I'VE BEEN HERE!!! I'd like to include a bit more on history rather than just general culture here. History under the spanish, etc, trade with other pueblos, possible origins. What are the likely anthropological origins of the Acoma etc. As far as culture, the pueblo's religion and cultural myths along with some information on famous ceremonies (not private ceremonies, clearly) would be interesting. That's where I'm going with this, and if anyone else has information on those lines, it would be great if you could add it. --ABQCat 21:11, 13 Dec 2004 (UTC)

I went there once last summer or the year before, and had a really informative tour, but about all I remember is their "hand-sign-language" for what I think was the word "respect", but I'm not sure. I also recall (if I'm remembering correctly) that they used the same word to represent "mother" as "grandmother" and possibly even "aunt" or "sister". I might still have some of the pamphlets from there; I'll check when I can later this week. --[[User:Brian0918|brian0918 talk]] 23:16, 13 Dec 2004 (UTC)
For future inclusion (should find a few more sources for a more balanced take on the information), I found a bit more information on history and culture of the Acoma. I'll work towards including some of the information in the article.
--ABQCat 04:21, 14 Dec 2004 (UTC)

There needs to be a discussion on Don Juan de Oñate, and his conquest of New Mexico. It is disrespectful the the Acoma people to not include this vital juncture of their history and the atrocities they faced in the midst of it.

More sources:
I have access to these books, but you can look for them too :)
  • Rabasa, José. Aesthetics of Colonial Violence: The Massacre of Acoma in Gaspar de Villagra's Historia de la Nueva Mexico. Writing violence on the northern frontier : the historiography of sixteenth century New Mexico and Florida and the legacy of conquest.
21 pages of information. Examines Villagra's account of the massacre.
  • The green book of language revitalization in practice / edited by Leanne Hinton and Ken Hale. San Diego : Academic Press, 2001.
Chapter titled: Native Language Planning: A Pilot Process in the Acoma Pueblo Community, pp 63-74.
  • Sedgwick, Mrs. William T. Acoma, the sky city; a study in Pueblo-Indian history and civilization.
History, Antiquities.
  • Minge, Ward Alan. Ácoma : pueblo in the sky. 1991.
History, Land Tenure.
  • Seymour, Tryntje Van Ness. Acoma / text and photographs by Tryntje Van Ness Seymour. Salisbury, Conn. : Lime Rock Press, 1979.
"One hundred copies ... published ... consisting of seventy-five copies of the Regular Edition, numbered 1 to 75, and twenty-five copies of the Deluxe Edition, numbered I to XXV."
  • James, H. L. Acoma, people of the white rock. West Chester, Pa. : Schiffer Publishing, c1988.
  • Nabokov, Peter. Architecture of Acoma Pueblo : the 1934 Historic American Buildings Survey project. Santa Fe, N.M. : Ancient City Press, c1986. 137 p. : ill., plans.
  • Paytiamo, James. Flaming Arrow's people. New York City, Duffield and Green [c1932].
by an Acoma Indian, James Paytiamo; with drawings by the author
  • Stirling, Matthew Williams. Origin myth of Acoma, and other records. Washington, U.S. Govt. print. off., 1942.
  • White, Leslie A. New material from Acoma. Washington, D.C. : Govt. Print. Off., 1943.
Other information:
--[[User:Brian0918|brian0918 talk]] 13:52, 14 Dec 2004 (UTC)

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Illustration of Sky City from 1846
Illustration of Sky City from 1846
Acoma Pueblo, 1899.
Acoma Pueblo, 1899.
Acoma Church, corner view showing mostly left wall.
Acoma Church, corner view showing mostly left wall.
Acoma Church, side wall and tower with cross.
Acoma Church, side wall and tower with cross.
Looking across street toward houses.
Looking across street toward houses.
Pottery in the interior of an Acoma dwelling.
Pottery in the interior of an Acoma dwelling.

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