Talk:Achatina fulica

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[edit] Copyright Violation?

Much of this article seems to be taken directly from a Journal without attribution [1] (especially the Impact section). Chovain 04:39, 19 June 2006 (UTC)

Thanks. I'm trying to clean this up now. -- Where 23:02, 7 July 2006 (UTC)
I couldn't find anything besides that section that is a copyvio. Thus, I'm removing it from the Possible copyright violations category. -- Where 23:05, 7 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Shell Banding

The article mentions that variations in the colour of the shell reflect variations in diet but does anyone have a source for this, or more information? At first glance my smaller snails are definately lighter in colour but they all exhibit banding inspite of being fed a very regular diet through their lifespan. Danikat 22:38, 14 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Life Cycle

"Adult size is reached in about four months, but growth may continue slowly beyond this up to at least one and a half years."

umm isn't "up to at least" two conflicting statements, as upto implies a max life, and at least implies a minimum. Something worded a little better and perhaps giving and average and estimated max lifetime would be nice.Dabigdeez 20:25, 19 June 2006 (UTC)

some of the caring for giant african land snails might be useful! Sir Basil 11 19:51, 20 June 2006 (UTC) Sir Basil 11

[edit] Illegal in US

http://exoticpets.about.com/cs/rarespecies/a/pestsGALs.htm claims they are illegal in the US. It's a terrible reference, I know, but better than nothing. I didn't want to completely revert the previous user's edit because it contained some extra info that looked legit. Chovain 06:06, 21 June 2006 (UTC)

They are considered a plant pest and cannot be kept or imported without license.Edwbaker 23:19, 28 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Disease

"It cannot be stressed enough that these introductions of putative biological control agents against the Giant East African snail are extremely" Direct copy paste from here and or here. It is only small sections but thought this should be brought to someone's attention, not even sure if it matters. Nashville Monkey 09:05, 21 January 2007 (UTC)

Copying from a copyrighted source without any attribution is an infringement at best and outright plagiarism at worst. I have removed those sections that looked most violatory. 68.39.174.238 13:00, 10 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Gender related resource investment?

"[...] the larger individual [acts] as a female. This is due to the comparative resource investment associated with the different genders".

I don't get it. Is the link between the two facts supposed to be evident? I assume it is the female role that implies the largest resource investment - so shouldn't the strongest individual be able to decline it?

Actually, both of them can decline, they have no devices for raping each other :). It seems to me, but I'm not sure, that the smaller individual already considers zirself big enough to f*ck, but not big enough to lay eggs, so zie doesn't allow to be penetrated by the big guy, even if the big one is already interested in both ways of sex :). (I would also appreciate more professional explanation) 140.129.151.35 13:02, 2 November 2007 (UTC)

Maybe someone informed could add an extra clarifying sentence? 146.48.84.182 01:19, 25 June 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Shell Coiling

As with humans, left and right "handedness" is observed in the direction of coiling of the shell

Maybe I've been hanging out in the wrong circles, but I've yet to meet a human with a shell that coils in either direction. :) I assume this sentence is relating humans preference for using one hand over the other, to the direction that AFs shells coil, but these things seem to me to be completely unrelated.

Is this a completely random comparison? If so, I'd like to drop the "as with humans" part.

Or, is there actually some common mechanism that relates the two phenomenon? If so, that is actually very interesting - but please can we mention what it is that relates the two? 82.46.105.121 16:43, 15 September 2007 (UTC)

snideness noted and article fixed... :-) -- Nashville Monkey 14:06, 29 September 2007 (UTC)

[edit] copyvio

I think that texts at iss.org [2] is not public domain. because there is nothing about public domain in disclaimer --Snek01 (talk) 19:17, 16 December 2007 (UTC)

I think you are correct, Snek01. Further, I see what I believe is quite a bit of language taken directly from Mead's book on these snails. I am not sure what the proper procedure is, now, to save the article from being entirely deleted for copyright problems. That's what I now intend to check. Tim Ross·talk 19:17, 3 January 2008 (UTC)
I just got a go-ahead from Anthøny to edit the main article in spite of the tag's restriction. That's what I will do now, working on your issue first, and then the parts taken straight from Mead. Feel free to jump in and help! Tim Ross·talk 20:54, 3 January 2008 (UTC)
Just as I feared. Entire sentences have been inserted from Mead's book by User:140.129.151.35. I will have to revert back to the version of Oct. 24 just to get rid of those, which will, of course, remove some other bits and pieces. I have no time to do that right now, but will handle it tomorrow (Jan 4, 2008) unless some other editor makes the needed changes before then. Tim Ross·talk 22:11, 3 January 2008 (UTC)
As far as I can tell, all is now well with the article. All copyright problems that I could detect have been removed, the minor modifications that were lost by that operation have been restored, and the copyvio tag is no longer there (but not by my action). Tim Ross·talk 16:00, 4 January 2008 (UTC)