Talk:Abu Ghosh
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[edit] not palestine
Abu Ghosh is an Israeli Arab village. It is not Palestine and the people who live there are not Palestinians. Including it in the Wikipedia Palestine project is misleading. --Gilabrand 05:16, 7 May 2007 (UTC)
[edit] not acceptable
The following passage (from Benny Morris) has been cut out (and instead "summarized" into one line):
[edit] 1948-1950
The villagers of Abu Ghosh had first been expelled in 1948, but the bulk of the inhabitants "infiltrated" back home in the following months/years. In the second half of 1949, the IDF and police started to descend on Abu Ghosh in a series of search-and-expel operations, where they rounded up the most recent "infiltrators" and pushed them over the border into Jordan. (Morris, p. 267-268): Following one such round-up, in early 1950, the inhabitants of Abu Gosh sent off an "open letter", to Knesset members and journalists, writing that the Israelis had repeatedly
"surrounded our village, and taken our women, children and old folk, and thrown them over the border and into the Negev Desert, and many of them died in consequence, when they were shot [trying to make their way back across] the borders".
So far, the inhabitants had held their peace.
"But we cannot remain silent in face of the latest incident last Friday, when we woke up to the shouts blaring over the loudspeaker announcing that the village was surrounded and anyone trying to get out would be shot....The police and military forces then began to enter the houses and conduct meticulous searches, but no contraband was found. In the end, using force and blows, they gathered up our women, and old folk and children, the sick and the blind and pregnant women. These shouted for help but there was no saviour. And we looked on and were powerless to do anything save beg for mercy. Alas, our pleas were of no avail... They then took the prisoners, who were weeping and screaming, to an unknown place, and we still do not know what befell them." (quoted in Morris, 1994)
Partly due to public outcry, most of the inhabitants were allowed home. Morris writes (p. 269): In the end only several dozen Abu Ghosh families remained in exile, as refugees, in the Ramallah area in the West Bank.
...instead, one has inserted has a long, full quote by a casual inhabitant. This is really not acceptable. I am reinserting the full quote from Morris. Regards, Huldra 16:58, 7 May 2007 (UTC)
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- This whole section by Benny Morris is POV and sticks out like a sore thumb. The "cut and paste" feel is so blatant. I say it should be removed. The person who inserted it here is looking for some way to push his/her agenda. When it comes to Abu Ghosh, this anti-Israel bias doesn't pass muster.--Gilabrand 17:18, 7 May 2007 (UTC)
- Whaw. I am afraid that whatever you think of Morris, his writing is more representative for the history of the Abu Ghosh than some "cherry-picked" interview with an inhabitant. And that the villagers of Abu Ghosh were friendly towards the Yishuv: nobody is arguing against it. In fact; some would see that as a point. Regards, Huldra
- This whole section by Benny Morris is POV and sticks out like a sore thumb. The "cut and paste" feel is so blatant. I say it should be removed. The person who inserted it here is looking for some way to push his/her agenda. When it comes to Abu Ghosh, this anti-Israel bias doesn't pass muster.--Gilabrand 17:18, 7 May 2007 (UTC)