User talk:Abstrakt

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Hi, thanks, I remember that episode - the one with her father. That's a pretty old one, it's not on TV very often...I couldn't find that particular piece of information on the Internet, and when it comes to TV here, anonymous people frequently add junk, so I was being a bit overzealous I suppose (my apologies if you were that anonymous person who added it in the first place!). Adam Bishop 19:12, 16 Nov 2004 (UTC)

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[edit] Sarcelles

Hi Abstrakt, yes... I'm tempted to do the same thing too, but I don't really want to be accused of "removing information". -_- I've taken the issue up with other users too, such as at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Chinese cities, but so far nothing's been done. -- ran (talk) 21:49, Jun 23, 2005 (UTC)

I don't know what to do though... but I do know I hate having 100 articles on Chinese cities that are poorly written. What do you think should be done? -- ran (talk) 21:53, Jun 23, 2005 (UTC)

About Sarcelles:
  1. Yes, he's annoying.
  2. However, that's not to say that everything that he does is annoying. Qincheng Prison, for example, is actually pretty major.
  3. Wikipedia is getting pretty stubby, with a lot of people adding their own high schools, etc. As long as Sarcelles' pet creations are well contained and well maintained, I think they're mostly harmless.
  4. I think the main thing we need to watch out for are:
    1. Invasions of other article. E.g., Sarcelles starts Beijing, and 2/3 of it is about Qincheng Prison.
    2. Falsehoods and biases. Tewu comes to mind.
Thanks for watching out for him so much, btw; I will try to help you out as much as possible. -- ran (talk) 21:15, 9 January 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Slang pages

Hey there. :) I noticed some of your recent successful AfD's and noted that you're about as big a fan of useless lists as I am. I was wondering, therefore, if you could give me your opinion of the following before I AfD them myself: Catholic street slang (discussion started on Talk:Catholic street slang), Canadian slang, Gay slang, Sexual slang (redir to List of sexual slang), and Body parts slang - all of these have lived less than 2 months. Two others that have been around longer but still seem wrong to me are Boston slang and Singapore gay terminology. Thanks in advance for your input (here, on my talk page, or the talk pages of the articles in question). --Kgf0 23:00, 7 October 2005 (UTC)

[edit] re: Joe Namath

Hmm... looks like when I was trying to remove a spam link, I accidently also reverted your edit. [1] Sorry. Zzyzx11 (Talk) 01:08, 6 December 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Xinjiang

Hi Abstrakt, yes you're absolutely right, cities and prefectures in Xinjiang should not be confounded together. The template should be corrected as well. -- ran (talk) 00:19, 25 December 2005 (UTC)

FYI, I've edited the article on Khotan to differentiate them [2]. — Instantnood 18:11, 26 December 2005 (UTC)

Hami / Hotan are the official spellings, Kumul / Khotan are the customary spellings. I don't have a list of official spellings right now... but I can get it after mid-January. Or you can look in any National Geographic map. -- ran (talk) 08:03, 27 December 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Articles for Deletion

Hi. I have seen some of the articles you recently nominated for deletion. I appreciate you efforts in trying to keep some non-encyclopedic stuff out of wikipedia. However, there are some standards that are currently agreed upon (for example, every town deserves an article, apparently). I suggest taking a look at Wikipedia:Deletion_policy and especially Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Precedents. Not that I agree with everything that is in these pages, but going counter established precedents proves useless. - Liberatore(T) 20:34, 9 January 2006 (UTC)

You didn't offend me at all! Nor I am alarmed for anything (I do not care much about the existence of an article on Biancavilla in Wikipedia, but it was evident to me that this artice was about to be kept). My apologize if I offended you with my suggestion, but that was just mean to be that - a suggestion. For the record, the articles for deletion that made me think you were not aware of AfD conventions were Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of Favelas of Brazil (you didn't explain why this list is useless), Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Lovari (musicians are usually nominated by stating that they do not meet WP:MUSIC), and said Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Biancavilla (articles on suburbs may be deleted, but articles on towns are never). - Liberatore(T) 19:02, 10 January 2006 (UTC)

[edit] WP:CIV

I believe some of your comments on Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Chinese prisons by Sarcelles such as "I'm baffled by the inability of some people to read!" and "... who in their right mind ..." are of the type which ought to be avoided. They are unnecessarily demeaning to other Wikipedia contributors, and tend to escalate conflicts rather than solve them. -- Dragonfiend 20:05, 12 January 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Wikipedia:Requests for comment/Sarcelles

Feel free to add your comments. -- ran (talk) 17:40, 25 January 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Randle El

Thanks, that's very interesting. Good job on the research. Keep up the good work :-) Alhutch 00:03, 10 February 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Chinese history articles

Thanks for your contributions -- particularly picking up my mistakes! --Nlu (talk) 21:17, 14 February 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Request for edit summary

Hi. I am a bot, and I am writing to you with a request. I would like to ask you, if possible, to use edit summaries a bit more often when you contribute. The reason an edit summary is important is because it allows your fellow contributors to understand what you changed; you can think of it as the "Subject:" line in an email. For your information, your current edit summary usage is 12% for major edits and 26% for minor edits. (Based on the last 150 major and 150 minor edits outside the Wikipedia, User, Image, and all Talk namespaces.)

This is just a suggestion, and I hope that I did not appear inpolite. You do not need to reply to this message, but if you would like to give me feedback, you can do so at the feedback page. Thank you, and happy edits, Mathbot 04:21, 15 February 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Romanization for Bohai-related articles

Hello. I proposed to use Pinyin as the default romanization for Bohai-related articles (again). If you are interested, add your comments at Talk:Bohai. --Nanshu 01:00, 22 February 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Thanks!

Thanks for all the work you do fixing my little mistakes, especially with pinyin!!! Rock on!Mike 13:45, 10 March 2006 (UTC)

[edit] RE: Qiemo

Well, as far as I am concerned, the information was taken from the 1911 Britannica encyclopedia. Further research needs to be done on this to keep the information up to date. --Siva1979Talk to me 17:49, 11 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Manchuria / Manchu

Hi, thanks for contacting me about the vandalism that has been going on in these two articles. I too think that Breathejustice, 67.38.247.32, and 192.35.79.70 are the same user. I only came across the Manchuria article by chance because I was doing some research about Russian and Northern Asian geography when I suddenly noticed all these bad grammatical errors and spellings. I looked upon the "history" and I noticed this one user had made mulitiple changes, and the way the article looked after he edited was just really awful and comical (in a embarrassing way) and doesn't make much sense. Anyway, I want to ask could you also keep an eye on this user and on these two pages he edited. Make sure the changes are referenced and this person doesn't do any severe Vandalism. Thanks a lot! --Godardesque 22:40, 19 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Sarcelles

Perhaps we should alert the people at Talk:Falun Gong? They're requesting mediation as we speak, perhaps Sarcelles' recent FLG-related contributions, especially the rather explosive Sujiatun allegations, can be included in their efforts. -- ran (talk) 19:13, 9 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] IPA

Hello Abstract,

when inserting the IPA template, it makes sense to put whole words into brackets, not just single letters.

I also noticed that in the article on the Tai Nüa language, someone destroyed the Tai Nüa letters, but that was probably before your edits. —Babelfisch 08:47, 14 August 2006 (UTC)

Sorry, no, the Tai Nüa is fine, I just don't have the right font installed.

Something else: I've just reverted your adding the IPA template to the article on Hami/K̢umul. The Uighur "new script" is not IPA. —Babelfisch 11:46, 22 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Taiwanese aborigines

Hi Abstrakt, Good suggestion on Taiwanese aborigines. A brief section detailing where they live today in significant numbers is a good idea.

If you wanna jump in and edit/shorten/tighten/add new things, just do it. I am eager to find other people who want to make the Taiwanese aborigines page 'compelling, even brilliant' or whatever the Wikipedia standard for Featured Articles is. Tks! Ling.Nut 19:13, 27 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Rouruan

Hello, On 05:07, 24 April 2006 you added a table of Kaghans to the Rouruan article including Mi'oukeshegou Khan (彌偶可社句可汗) 郁久閭婆羅門 Yùjiǔlǘ Póluómén 521-524. Could you check his position on the list please? Also do you know if he is the ruler referred to in this quote from http://spotlightongames.com/variant/maharaja/eph.html

"522 Apex of Ephthalite power. Chief of the Juan-Juan nomads flees to the Ephthalites for protection. Ephthalites dominate north and south of the Tien Shan range. Control as far as Tieh-lo in the south, Ci`ih-le^ (Kao-ch`e^) in the north, at least to Khotan in the east probably more, and up to Persia in the west. A separate Ephthalite Empire controls much of India. Forty countries (including Sassanid Persia) are in tribute. Ephthalite centers are at Ghur, Balkh, Warwaliz (north of today's Kunduz near the source of the Oxus) and Hsi-mo-ta-lo. The entire empire probably comprises fifty to sixty thousand individuals. "

Many thanks. Kaz 00:18, 28 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] reference for Naxi consonants / vowels

Hi, I was wondering what your source was for the table of Naxi consonants/vowels? I'd recommend (i) using one source which uses the International Phonetic Alphabet (ii) quoting which source this is exactly. Thanks for any comments! (You can email me at: alexis.michaud@univ-paris3.fr to discuss this) Best, Alexis

[edit] Manchuria & Jurchen related articles

Hi, just want to let you know that a certain user (I'm pretty sure its Breathejustice) has been vandalize articles related to Manchuria, Jurchen, and Jin Dynasty, 1115–1234 again. Apparently, he/she still can't write well. Please, help Wikipedia users keep a good eye on these pages, thanks. --Godardesque 20:10, 5 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Vandalism on the Jin Dynasty article

Don't worry, I'm not accusing you. User:Breathejustice has forsaken his wikipedia account for the ip address 69.210.209.211. I've reverted his/her edits countless times and it is really starting to get on my nerves. Depsite his/her info being cited, I don’t feel it is correct. Heck, even a portion of his/her cited source is wrong! It mentions "The name of Qing dynasty founder was Hambo”. This is incorrect because Hung Taiji, 8th son and heir of Nurhaci founded the Qing in 1636.

S/he keeps on reverting the page on the grounds that his/her source is cited and that the history of the Jin founder should be covered. I agree on the last part, but since his/her info is not readily excepted by me, you, and just about everyone else, It should be put (on the Jurchen page!!!) under a the heading of “Possible Origin(s)”, or something like that.

I keep on trying to tell them that the Jin dynasty page is about the Empire and not the Jurchen people, but s/he won’t listen. I mean if I wanted to add a huge paragraph about the Chinese people on every Chinese dynasty page, I would get booted out of wikipedia for being a NUT!

I have sent vandalism warnings to User:Breathejustice’s page twice. If s/he does it again, I will give him a final warning and then I will put his/her name on the Vandalism page for possible blockage. (!Mi luchador nombre es amoladora de la carne y traigo el dolor! 06:05, 7 September 2006 (UTC))

[edit] Straw Poll

Since all attempts have been made to reach an agreement with User:Breathejustice (and his sock puppets) regarding his countless reverts and incorrect info, I've started a straw poll survey here. It will be used to determine whether the info should stay or be deleted. If, in a week or two, the problem is not resolved, I will be asking for mediation from administrators. This will eventually lead to arbitration! (!Mi luchador nombre es amoladora de la carne y traigo el dolor! 06:18, 8 September 2006 (UTC))

[edit] Tuoba Heru

As far as I can tell, translating a sourced article from another language wiki is just fine, but there still needs to be a sources section that indicates where the information came from. I have seen other articles handle the matter, but I forget now exactly how it was done. I'll try to go figure that out and add the proper line explaining that this is a translation. Erechtheus 18:52, 7 October 2006 (UTC)

I would suggest that the Ong Iok-tek article handles the matter the best way. Could you please provide the link to the article on the zh wiki? Erechtheus 19:06, 7 October 2006 (UTC)
I actually figured it out for myself, I think -- I'd appreciate if you'd check the link I added to make sure it hits the right page. Erechtheus 00:28, 11 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Barnstar

The Barnstar of National Merit
For your contributions, you are awarded the Barnstar of National Merit. --Nlu (talk) 08:12, 9 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Abaoji

I have challenged the accuracy of the Abaoji article. Please respond in the talk page of the article.

Thanks

Ludahai 00:21, 19 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] WP:IFD for Image:Baekje power.jpg

I found another overexaggerated map Image:Baekje power.jpg, and it's up for deletion here. This map shows overexaggerated borders for Baekje, similar to Goguryeo h.gif we saw on July 19. Please comment or vote for/against deletion there. Thank you.--Endroit 14:36, 23 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Garzê

Since you wrote the first version of Garzê Tibetan Autonomous Prefecture, can you respond to my comments on the talk page? I realise this is a translation from the Chinese, but, naturally, they don't use the spelling "Garzê".—Nat Krause(Talk!) 08:16, 12 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Taiwanese aborigines; barnstars

Hi,

Thanks for the offer of help on Taiwanese aborigines. Another editor, Maowang, is also interested in revamping the article.

I see you have a barnstar here on your talkpage. You might wanna copy it to your userpage, 'cause eventually the talk page will get so long that you'll have to archive it. Then the barnstar will no longer be readily visible.

I saw yours is the generic BoNM, rather than country-specific, so I'm thinking of making barnstars of national merit for China and the ROC. Or maybe not. I may work on articles. :-)

Anyhow, thanks! --Ling.Nut 16:32, 6 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Taiwanese aborigines

Hi Abstrakt,


Maowang is a friend of mine. I didn't ask him specifically why he deleted your input, but his edit summary said that it was because your info was unverified by a secondary source. I wouldn't worry — you can leave a message on Maowang's talk page to discuss the issue, or leave a message on the article's talk page, or even email him. If you have a secondary source, it would be very good to note that.

I do appreciate your contributions to Taiwanese aborigines. Maowang wants to rewrite large portions of it, and certainly some portions of the article need re-writing. :-) I would really be gratified if you felt that you wanted to be a part of the relevant discussion. Of course you don't have to, but if you do, that would be cool.

The discussion to date has been entirely via email exchanges between Maowang and I, 'cause we weren't aware of anyone else who wanted to make major contributions. There are many ways you could join in, if you wish. But if you don't feel you wanna make an ongoing contribution at this time, you can still hash out the question of the "aborigines in China" with Maowang if you like. I am easy-going; I can go with whatever you and he decide.

Please do drop me a line if you have further questions or comments. Dialog is good. :-)

Later, --Ling.Nut 15:14, 16 January 2007 (UTC)

OH PS, I just now looked at your recent edit. Technically it's correct, but I believe it's misleading in that it doesn't give the full picture... It's true that the official name of the Taiwanese aborigines as listed among the ethnic groups of China is Gaoshan. The aborigines were known as Gaoshan in Taiwan as well; in fact I believe the term still has some usage. I don't think it is considered to be the best possible choice of terms, tho. Maowang is actually in Taiwan now (I plan to return); he could give the scoop on what terms have currency these days.... Later --Ling.Nut 15:21, 16 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] please doublecheck my Chinese.. is this correct?

See link at "left arm": In the movie Alpha Dog, the aggressive-looking Chinese characters in the prominent faux-tattoo on Justin's left arm actually mean "ice skating." --Ling.Nut 15:34, 8 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Manchus

I saw that you have added a category called "Manchus" to a number of article where I added the category "Manchu statesmen." Why don't we make "Manchu statesmen" a subcategory of "Manchus"? That will make it more elegant and useable.--Niohe 03:51, 6 March 2007 (UTC)

I took a look at the three articles and I noticed that they are very short. You may want to add more content and some sources, otherwise someone might nominate them for deletion Wikipedia:Notability.
I have made Category:Manchu statesmen a subcategory of Category:Manchus and I will delete the latter category wherever the former is already present. Hope that's OK.--Niohe 23:02, 9 March 2007 (UTC)
Hi Abstrakt, I'm working on enlisting Jurchen/Manchu Chieftain clans i would like to know if you can help, i am just starting to learn Chinese Mandarin but my level on Manchu, Chinese and Korean language proficiency are very low. I need your help because the knowledge of Korean peoples on Jurchen History is mostly narrow for instance they dont know that there are more than a thousand of clans, they sometimes consider Oranke as Jianzhou or Yeren Jurchens and so on...Whlee 17:32, 29 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Article about Kurów on Manchu language

Could you please write a stub about Kurów here - just a few sentences based on http://zh.wikipedia.org/wiki/%E5%BA%93%E9%B2%81%E5%A4%AB%E5%B8%82 or EN wiki? Only 3-5 sentences enough. Please. Pietras1988 TALK 18:03, 30 March 2007 (UTC)

Why do you want an article of Kurow on all Wikipedias??? I really want to know that. SPQRobin 23:46, 9 April 2007 (CEST)
Yes... give us a good reason?!!? Do widzenia ! Whlee 11:57, 10 April 2007 (CEST)

[edit] help wanted

I need your help. I am a new member of wikipeida. I find the article of "Tibet" or "history of tibet" in wikipeida is very biased towards pro-independent Tibetans. I have strong evidence to prove what I said. I made some edit and added some important facts. However, they are deleted. The problem is: I am not familiar with the rules of wikipeida and I probable won't have time to get familiar with it. So, I need your help so that truth can be known by people. You can find my deleted versions in the history of that topic. The main source of my information is in the following. It would be better if you can have a quick look of this website and add whatever information you want. I remember the content of this website is from Chinese government’s white paper on Tibet issue. If you go to the official website of Tibetan in exiles, you will find that although they are very unhappy with these information. They could not point out any major problems about these facts.

"The historical status of tibet", by China internet information center. It cab be found at the website of:

www.china.org.cn/ch-xizang/tibet/historical_status/english/index.html

www.china.org.cn/ch-xizang/tibet/indexE.html

This is probably the most complete and detailed information source on the Tibet issue.

Many thanks.

Xiaoliang1

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[edit] Manju Wikipedia (Manju i yooni bithe)?

Hojo na !

Bi manju gisun be seseme bahambi.
Inggiri gisun be tangsime gisurembi .

Dear Abstrakt
We are planning to create a Manchu Wikipedia , because we are convinced that Wikipedia will contribute to the efforts of preserving this endangered language : Manchu Wikipedia
We would be highly pleased if a native speaker or someone having an intermediate level of that language like you (and having at least basic knowledge in English), would contribute on the project because i 've seen with interest what you have update a page in Manchu language.
Manchu people, philologist, Manchurist (i mean scholar learning Manchu language/Tungusic studies) would be very glad and happy to see, a notorious website written in Manchu language.

Best Regards !

sirame acaki !

PS : I can＇t speak Manju very well/bi manju gisun be sain gisureme bahanarakū
Please reply me in English. Xiexie Zaijian !Whlee 15:51, 8 June 2007 (UTC)

sorry for the late reply, I've kind of busy in real life and haven't been on wikipedia on a regular basis =(. in reply to your idea of a manchu wikipedia, that sounds like a great idea! unfortunately I'm not a native speaker and still learning as well. Anyway on another related matter, I see that you are also interested in expanding the information available on the English Wikipedia as well. A Translucent Mirror: History and Identity in Qing Imperial Ideology by Pamela Kyle Crossley is a very good source in case you're looking for English sources to cite. [3]. Abstrakt

Alhouth not being a native speaker, your level proficiency still remains higher than mine. ;) Yes as you said i'm interested in expanding the information available on the English Wikipedia especially history of Korea and its closest neighbours. Creating Manchu Wikipedia is a great challenge i would like to learn more about that language but the problem is that most of Manchu dictionary i found on the web are written in Chinese and i'm not fluent in Chinese. :(. If you still remain interested in being involved you can add your name on this chart close to mine. RegardsWhlee 14:04, 11 June 2007 (UTC)

City of Tieling


Abstrakt,

During the course of my research I came accross the Wikipedia entry for the Chinese city Tieling. I noticed that you added some information to the page including "The mayor of Tieling is [[Li Wenke," I'm curious to find out your source for this information, as I have been trying, mostly without any success, to find information about the local government in Tieling.

Thank you.

[edit] Manju Wikipedia (Manju i yooni bithe)?

Thank you for being involved on the future mnc.wikipedia.org! Whlee 13:10, 19 June 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Manchu-English dictionary

Not sure if this might help your work on Manchu wikipedia but here's the link. http://www.anaku.cn/Blog/index.php?job=art&articleid=a_20060818_221852 Abstrakt 03:51, 20 June 2007 (UTC)

It can help but it is'nt sufficient to write articles. I can suggest you an other page http://www.qingis.com/books/manchuwords.txt it is the biggest online dictionary i've ever seen on Manchu language but it is written in Chinese, but my level proficiency on that language is also low. :( Whlee 13:28, 20 June 2007 (UTC)

[edit] list of laojiaos

... I suppose there's nothing wrong with putting a list of laojiaos. At least it's not cluttering up the main article. But we should keep an eye on him. -- ran (talk) 14:17, 25 June 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Chukchi language

... There are a couple of questions about orthography at Talk:Chukchi language. You've been active in that section lately. -- Ngio 14:56, 30 July 2007 (UTC)

[edit] List of Chieftains of the Jurchens

Hi since I'm lacking in reading Korean, could please help with the List of Chieftains of the Jurchens article and compare it with the list on [4], thanks Abstrakt —Preceding comment was added at 04:14, 15 November 2007 (UTC)

I made the List of Chieftains of the Jurchens on the Korean Wikipedia, I will compare both of them and update them in the future, but i am pretty busy thoses last few weeks.Whlee (talk) 07:40, 24 November 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Removals

Yes, it's interesting. Badagnani (talk) 02:35, 29 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Good catch!

Thank you for noticing the vandalism on Forbidden City and fixing it. Shenme (talk) 04:47, 5 April 2008 (UTC)


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[edit] Era dates

I have a question about your change to Tongzhi Emperor[5], as you did not cite a reference/source. Why is there a discrepancy between the era date and the reign date in the same infobox?

That is, 1861-11-11 to 1875-01-12, versus 1862-01-30 to 1875-02-05?

-- Robocoder (t|c) 19:03, 19 April 2008 (UTC)

Thanks for the explanation. -- Robocoder (t|c) 21:10, 19 April 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Re: Template:Islam and China

Hi there!

Don't worry, I will help you because as I can see that you was right and I totally support it. Have a nice day. Bye.Angelo De La Paz (talk) 06:21, 23 April 2008 (UTC)

Your explanation was totally convinced. But I think you must sned it to Editingman and invite some more members too. I hope I ould help. Bye.Angelo De La Paz (talk) 02:49, 26 April 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Islam in China

Hi there!

Please add this article into your watchlist now because I've reverted this one. Thank you so much!

Angelo De La Paz (talk) 09:51, 11 June 2008 (UTC)