Talk:Abramelin the Mage
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[edit] What is this about the "personal demon"?
I think we need an edit on this entry. It states that one of the primary goals of the Abramelin Rite is to gain control of one's "personal demon"- the inverse of one's HGA. However, I have not seen this in either the French (Mathers) version or Dehn's English translation of the German original. In both cases, one is to summon the 12 rulers of Hell, who then give over any number of familiar spirits (four primary familiars, plus dozens to use with the Talismans). There is no "inverse Angel" or "personal demon" anywhere in the system. (Unless we consider the familiars to be "personal demons"- which is fine, but that's not what the article is saying at all.) If no one objects, I'll take this part out of the entry (and I believe it also exists in the entry for The Book of the Sacred Magic of Abramelin the Mage. Kheph777 08:14, 13 February 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Propose merge with The Book of the Sacred Magic of Abramelin the Mage
Much of this article is simply repeating information relating to the book; there is (as the article says) very little that can be said specifically about the man, and that could just as well be covered in the article about the book. I don't think Abramelin is historically of interest in any other respect than that he is the reputed origin of the rituals in the book.
That seems like a better way to resolve the disambiguation issue: merge Abramelin the Mage into The Book of the Sacred Magic of Abramelin the Mage and make the former a redirect to the latter. Fuzzypeg 12:34, 8 May 2006 (UTC)
- Wow, you got here quick! I was just going to move this discussion to Talk:The Book of the Sacred Magic of Abramelin the Mage, having seen that that's where the merge tags seem to be directing everyone. I hope you won't find it terribly remiss if I copy your comment there as well? Fuzzypeg 12:41, 8 May 2006 (UTC)
I'm doing some really fast backpedalling right now. I'm removing the merge tags for the moment, since I see that User:catherineyronwode has already raised strong objections to a merge and given some reasoning. You can find her comments at Talk:The Book of the Sacred Magic of Abramelin the Mage. Sorry. Fuzzypeg 12:48, 8 May 2006 (UTC)
