User talk:Abou Ben Adhem

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[edit] Alani map

Could you, please, put the map of Alani migrations to http://commons.wikimedia.org, so as other language editions could use it too. Thank you for the map, it's beautiful and easy to understand. - Slavik IVANOV 03:08, 11 February 2006 (UTC)

Done! I've uploaded the file here: http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Image:Alani_map.jpg . (I tried to do this to begin with, but couldn't figure out how to resolve the overlapping Image: and commons: namespaces.) - Abou 00:22, 12 February 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Decade List template

You've been removing categories, interwiki links, and the such. Is there a reason for doing this? --Nlu (talk) 01:36, 27 May 2006 (UTC)

The template Template:Decade List generates category and interwiki links automatically; so I was removing the redundant manually-entered links. Sorry; I should have explained that in the edit summaries. Abou 03:31, 27 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] California WikiProjects

As a California Wikipedian, you may be interested in the California WikiProject (and/or one of its 'daughter' Wikiprojects on Southern California, Santa Barbara County, California State Highways and California County Routes). Please take a look at the WikiProject to see if there is anything that interests you. If you have any comments or questions, feel free to contact me. If enough people express an interest, it would also be very easy to create additional daughter WikiProjects, such as a Northern California WikiProject or a California Politics WikiProject.

It has also more than seven months since the 2nd Los Angeles area Wikipedia meetup ([ 26 September]] 2005), so it is time for another one. There have also been California meetups in San Diego (18 October 2005) and a very small one in Santa Barbara (8 April 2006. It's also about time that the Bay Area gets its first Meetup if anyone is willing to organize it. BlankVerse 06:00, 28 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] noinclude

Any reason you've been adding no include tags articles? •Jim62sch• 14:27, 11 June 2006 (UTC)

I've written a template for use in decade articles, which aggregates the entries for the years comprising that decade into a single listing. To simplify that aggregate listing, I put noinclude tags around everything in the year articles except the actual list of events for that year. The template is currently used in the articles for the first three decades of the fifth century, but the frequency with which other editors remove the noinclude tags gives me doubts about the practicality of using this template further. Also, your splitting up of the event listings by region and topic, while a great improvement to the year articles, makes the aggregate decade listings somewhat more confusing. Abou 18:26, 11 June 2006 (UTC)

Abou: Ah, I see. I couldn't find any info on noinclude tags, so while I knew the probable general purpose, I didn't know the overall purpose. If it's any consolation, I'm going to hit the decade and century articles once I get through 1000AD and add the important stuff. I realise that auto-population of fields beats manual anyday, but at least the data you want to capture will be there. Sorry if the changes I made created a problem, Take care, •Jim62sch• 20:42, 11 June 2006 (UTC) .

[edit] (moved from your userpage)

Dear Abou Ben Adhem,

First of all I would like to ask you to be quite polite in your suggestions and statements regarding the “probability” of the doctoral researches of the Turkist writers. Many thanks for that.

If you are not satisfied by the reference to the research of the Turkist writers, there is another one the most authoritative Russian historian Professor, Doctor E. P. Alekseeva. She is also Academician of the Russian Academy of Sciences (Moscow). The fact that Karachays and Balkars are the linear descendants of Alans is mentioned in her book (in Russian) "Карачаевцы и балкарцы древний народ Кавказа", Москва, 1993 (“Karachays and Balkars – ancient Caucasian nations” 1993, Moscow). Electronic version of the monograph is available on-line at: http://real-alania.narod.ru/alanialand/history/page1.htm Best regards,

Kemal —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Kemal09 (talk • contribs) .

[edit] Reference please

You added "educated in Africa" to Augustine of Hippo. Do you have a reference for this? My information at this point is that he was sent to and educated (our equivalent of tertiary) principally in Rome and Milan - as per the record in his "Confessio". Could you please clarify and revert my reversion by adding a citation? Cor Unum 12:15, 26 September 2006 (UTC)


Augustine went to Italy as a teacher, not a student. He was educated in Madauros and Carthage, in Africa, then taught successively in Tagaste, Carthage, Rome, and Milan. From the Confessio:
"For that year were my studies intermitted: whilst after my return from Madaura (a neighbour city, whither I had journeyed to learn grammar and rhetoric), the expenses for a further journey to Carthage were being provided for me; and that rather by the resolution than the means of my father, who was but a poor freeman of Thagaste."
"In those years when I first began to teach rhetoric in my native town..."
"Thou didst deal with me, that I should be persuaded to go to Rome, and to teach there rather, what I was teaching at Carthage."
"I began then diligently to practise that for which I came to Rome, to teach rhetoric..."
--Abou 15:04, 26 September 2006 (UTC)
Calm down
Be bold is the principle. My memory (having studied Augustine) was of his studies in Italy and principally the conversion in Milan of course. When I see one word added like "Africa" (and you have an African name/handle) to seemingly skew an article (without reference) and I think I know better, I sometimes revert to find out if it is a thoughtless (and hence unimportant) addition. Keeps people on their toes. I have seen a lot of axes being ground on wiki. It's part of the territory of course.
These are references you have supplied to me on my page- so why not add them as citations or footnotes? It will improve the article no end if you supply the reference. You will note I have aded quite a few to the article and it is on my watchlist. It strengthens the ability of people to corroborate.
Cor Unum 11:48, 28 September 2006 (UTC)


No problem! I just saw your Latin name/handle and figured you were a Roman trying to skew the article in favor of Italy :)
Seriously, the article could use some expansion on these points, but I was just trying to make a quick correction to a factual error in the meantime. It didn't seem significant enough or controversial enough to merit a citation in the intro paragraph.
As to strengthening the ability of people to collaborate/corroborate (whichever you meant): It would help if you raised issues like this on the article discussion page, where other editors could help verify information and incorporate it into the article. Bringing it up here suggests you see it as a personal issue that needs to be dealt with privately.
—Abou 14:44, 28 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Honorius (emperor)

Thank you for your corrections to Honorius (emperor).--Panarjedde 12:36, 15 October 2006 (UTC)