Talk:Abd al-Qadir
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The 1911 edition of The New Century Book of Facts published by the King-Richardson Company, Springfield, Massachusetts gives his birth year as 1807. Our article gives no source for 1808. Does anyone have a trustworthy source? -- Jmabel 00:12, Jul 19, 2004 (UTC)
- Britannica on line says 1808. --Tkinias 15:23, 22 Nov 2004 (UTC)
Such one-year differences are typically the result of a conversion from the Islamic calendar, any one year of which typically overlaps with 2 Western years. - Mustafaa 15:16, 24 Nov 2004 (UTC)
- /me slaps forehead. I don't know why that didn't occur to me then... —Tkinias 18:54, 22 Dec 2004 (UTC)
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[edit] Move
Good luck with the move, Mustafaa. I suspect you may be in for some strenuous opposition from the folks who don't like "foreign-looking" spellings. Leave me a message on my talk page if there is trouble and I miss it. —Sanāsi al-Grīgī a.k.a. Tkinias 18:54, 22 Dec 2004 (UTC)
Thanks! I'm not sure whether to prefer this or Abdelkader (the latter being the usual Algerian spelling), but Abdel Kadir is almost uniquely 1911. - Mustafaa 19:48, 22 Dec 2004 (UTC)
[edit] Khaled song
I am told by a native speaker that the Khaled song is not about this Abd al-Qadir, but about Abdul Qadir el-Jilani, a medieval sufi master also known as the Rose of Baghdad, founder of the Qadiri sufi order. Jayen466 15:44, 3 October 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Freemason
Added section on H. H. the Emir Abd el-Qäder's Masonic affiliation. Two contemporary accounts are in Robert Morris's Freemasonry in the Holy Land (1872), Charles Henry Churchill's Life of Abdel Kader, Ex-Sultan of the Arabs of Algeria, (1867). I didn't exactly know how to cite them in text.
The Emir also participated in a Q and A in regard to religious tolerance at the time of his initiation. It was published in a pamphlet by the Grand Orient of France.
--J. J. in PA 07:11, 5 March 2007 (UTC)
[edit] [dubious ] Freemason Comments
As shown above, there are adequate contemporary sources, cited above, establishing Abd el-Qäder's Masonic affiliation and there are two online sources as well. It is inaccurate to say, "There is also not enough sufficient evidence proving that he actually became a freemason."
Further, the claims "it is said," and "although it seems inconsistent with his main objectives," are exceptionally subjective.
I ask that that the statement be reverted. I was unable to contact the editor who made the change.
J. J. in PA 06:17, 17 April 2007 (UTC)J. J. in Phila
[edit] Life in Exile
Can the "Life in Exile" section here be edited to remove distracting redundancies? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Davidross47 (talk • contribs) 02:48, 24 January 2008 (UTC) Bold text
