Talk:A Trick of the Tail

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[edit] Tone

This article as written is basically a big, unsourced album review. Someone with more knowledge of the album might consider making this more neutral in tone, or at least find citations to back up the many opinions in it. --cholmes75 (chit chat) 16:58, 23 December 2006 (UTC)

I've cut out all of the review-style comments. A lot of deleted text but I don't think Wikipedia is the right place for most of it. JamminBen 11:30, 5 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Possible improvements

Perhaps this article could be improved by writing about the music or other interesting facts rather than whether the album "surprised" people or got good reviews. For instance:

  • Dance on a Volcano features an unusual time signature - it's either 7/8 or it alternates between 7/8 and 4/4 - I think?
  • Squonk verses are largely based around a few chords with the same bass note
  • A piano-only version of Mad Man Moon can be found on Genesis for two grand pianos - bizarre really as the track is mostly piano anyway
  • Los Endos is the only instrumental track on the album, featuring bits of Dance on a Volcano and Squonk - Added this
  • Some of the album is about mythical creatures, e.g. Squonk, A Trick of the Tail
  • This is also the first album where the tracks are credited to specific band members. Previous albums listed the music as being written by Genesis; albums from Genesis (Shapes) onwards were written by Banks/Collins/Rutherford, except for Calling All Stations - Added this
  • The line-up for this album produced Wind and Wuthering and Match of the Day (EP) - and Seconds Out (I think?) - but that was all. It might be worth starting here for citations because I'm sure I've read various people saying that this line-up was the best - usually they choose one of the two albums in this period, but there is sometimes a side-reference made to the line-up

I've deliberately put these points on the talk page because right now I have time to write them but not enough time to organise them into something coherent. Also I wanted to see if anyone else had an opinion on HOW to make the article better, i.e. what to write about.

I hope this is useful. JamminBen 05:10, 8 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Track links

Links were recently added for Squonk and Ripples. Squonk links to a page with info about the mythical creature rather than the track; this seems irrelevant in the context of this article. Ripples leads to a brief description of the track that doesn't stand too well as a separate article. I say this because I wouldn't expect every track to have its own page. Thoughts? JamminBen 09:48, 10 April 2007 (UTC)