Talk:A Bathing Ape

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[edit] Deletion

Someone speedy deleted this article as a blatent advert. I've restored and removed most of it leaving the bare facts. Secretlondon 17:48, 2 April 2007 (UTC)

[edit] official site

There is nothing on the bape official site except a link to download an .exe Anyone know what that is about? What is the program and what does it do, is it safe etc. Pretty strange

The exe file is a flash program that simulates a Mac OS X-like operating system. It's basically a flash website for the company with news and information. Bdotdub 01:05 14 January 2007 (EST)

Read this article it says what it is

This page claims that Bathing Ape was started by the musician Cornelius. That's something I had never heard before. Is there anything to it? --

That is totally erroneous. Cornelius is Nigo's friend. Nigo is a different person than Cornelius.  :^)

[edit] Ext link

I removed the link to SBkicks.com. Not only is this site just advertising, but selling FAPE hoodies! I mean $84.99 for a bape c'mon! I don't see there being a point in having a link for this site. Zapzoid 29 October 2006

I removed a link to a mostly japanese blog, could go in the japan bape article maybe? I also re-added the links that were removed by the person who added his myspace blog. --Amnesicangel 17:08, 31 October 2006 (UTC)

There seems to be people consistently putting links to fake online stores like bapemall and stuff, it needs to be watched because it's fake, everyone knows that Bape dosent do wholesale!

[edit] Hard to find?

I'm a little confused about the part about how the creator likes to set up stores in hard to find places. There's one in Soho! --DropDeadGorgias (talk) 12:42, 3 October 2005 (UTC)

Well for example, in Japan, the stores have no sign and are in an area where you wouldn't find it unless you were looking for it (eg: not in a mall plaza). In reference to the store in Soho, that's the ONLY store authorized to sell BAPE apparel in America. In Canada there are only 2 stores (1 chain called GoodFoot) that are allowed to sell BAPE shoes, one store is located in Toronto, the other one in Montreal .WiZZLa 07:11, 19 January 2006 (UTC)
Even the one in Soho is kind of "hidden". It's on a small side street, not on an avenue or Broadway and it has no real sign or banner on the storefront. Bdotdub 00:39 14 January 2007 (EST)
Livestock in Vancouver also sells authentic BAPEsta shoes
As an update to my January 19th comment, Goodfoot no longer carries BAPE shoes, possibly because the brand has lost popularity in Japan and other countries. WiZZLa 03:01, 17 April 2006 (UTC)

http://66.249.93.104/translate_c?hl=en&u=http://ja.wikipedia.org/wiki/NIGO A google translation of Nigo's page Eze_man

Even the one in Soho is kind of "hidden". It's on a small side street, not on an avenue or Broadway and it has no real sign or banner on the storefront. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Bdotdub (talk • contribs) 03:42, 14 January 2007 (UTC).

re: Soho being the only store authorized to sell in the US, that's not true. the Union store in Los Angeles is also an official retailer.

there's one seller on ebay that has real bape items for sale, as the article says. just go to advanced search and go to seller and type in "pondon" and enter and it should give you all his authentic bape products. pondon is a female, lol

[edit] YouTube links

This article is one of thousands on Wikipedia that have a link to YouTube in it. Based on the External links policy, most of these should probably be removed. I'm putting this message here, on this talk page, to request the regular editors take a look at the link and make sure it doesn't violate policy. In short: 1. 99% of the time YouTube should not be used as a source. 2. We must not link to material that violates someones copyright. If you are not sure if the link on this article should be removed, feel free to ask me on my talk page and I'll review it personally. Thanks. ---J.S (t|c) 07:10, 7 November 2006 (UTC) ==

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[edit] Discussion

I have re-organized and added some information that I feel makes the article a lot more concise and accurate. Many of the sections had repeated information and in the wrong sections. Some things that I thought might need some work still:

  • Fame in Japan - I only briefly touched upon Bapes fame in Japan from what I know. It is very broad and if anyone knows anything else on it, that'd be great
  • I removed the line about a possible Bape skate team. I know that there is a skate team for Ice Cream, but I hadn't heard of one for Bape. It wasn't cited so I just removed it. Can anyone confirm either way?

-- Bdotdub 01:03 14 January 2007 (EST)

I just cleaned up some of the wording here and there, as well as adding some small historical facts. I also expanded the Member's club info using the latest Bape catalog. I added the Design category and added info about the Bapesta, and Bapes adidas collaborations. Thanks to whomever removed that myspace link by the way. I hardly think that Bape would have a myspace page. Papercutninja 03:24, 17 January 2007 (UTC)


Took out the last paragraph, total baseless opinion. The Bape fad is CLEARLY not over when you see people, esp. hip=hop celebrities, wearing it constantly.

[edit] Notable Celebrities

Okay, the list of celebrities that have been seen wearing Bape is getting entirely out of hand. There is no reason for most of them to be on there because they have not aided in Bape's growth. If no one has a problem with it, I'm going to remove a bunch of them leaving only the ones that have been linked with Bape as a company. Bdotdub 00:41, 6 February 2007 (UTC)

I agree. -Will Beback · † · 01:08, 6 February 2007 (UTC)
Does anyone have a problem with Soulja boy being added? Vikingboy0129 03:32, 25 February 2007 (UTC)
Yes, unless you have a source for it. -Will Beback · † · 23:34, 25 February 2007 (UTC)

on the new Good Charlotte album, in the song "keep your hands off my girl" he says he's got bathing ape

Have we sources for any of these names? Celebs are appended every week, and I'm not sure if the three names there currently (Kanye West, Lupe Fiasco, and Jadakiss) are linked to the company or otherwise notably sighted in Bape. / edgarde 01:59, 13 June 2007 (UTC)


Kanye West mentions his "Bape sh*t" in his new song Stronger. —Preceding unsigned comment added by K teslow (talk • contribs) 13:14, 25 September 2007 (UTC)

Ann Coulter? I think that is very unlikely. She is an ultra-conservative pundit that has made seemingly racist comments in the past. I do not think she would ever wear anything related to hip hop fashion. Someone should site a source or remove her. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 66.253.145.154 (talk) 17:56, 2 March 2008 (UTC)


okay i placed a note on the article about celebs who have been rocking fape clothing because nigo doesn't want them wearing his clotes, it is on vibe, does anyone know where it is, i placed that fact in the article and it got deleted, if i put the link it won't get deleted —Preceding unsigned comment added by Choker (talk • contribs) 05:03, 13 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] How To Spot Fakes

There is absolutely no sources in this so i removed it and put it here. Once it is cited, then it can be republished. Until then, this is all coming from God-knows-who's mind and half of this could be someone's thoughts.Desouki 22:31, 4 March 2007 (UTC) (Forgot to log in and sign the comment when I made it.)


There are size limits in Bape clothing. Bape sizes may reach up to XXL or a 54-56 inch chest in hooded sweatshirts. There are no sizes bigger, such as XXXXl (4XL). Also sizes over XL are supposed to be rare, so you should be careful when buying a size over XL. Also People might fool you with a real bag, but might have the fake hoody in it.

Also another thing you should look for with Bape hoodies are the 'diamonds'. Look carefully and you will see the difference. Take a close look at how these 'diamonds' are placed on the hooded sweatshirts. The real bapes have the 'diamonds' "on" the letter. The fake ones have it "around" the letters. Also the quality of the material of the real Bapes do make a difference. The camoflauge designs on the real hooded sweatshirts appear clean and clear while the color schemes appear muted on the fakes. The hooded sweatshirts are claimed by Bape to be made in Japan, although they are sometimes produced in China. (Cheap Labor...Those that counterfiet Bapes are often the same ones who mass produce them in Chinese factories. They would usually keep a sample of the genuine article and mass produce it for the black market) And now, onto the subject of what real bapes are packaged in: The Bape plastic bags. The fake bags contain a yellow and orange hue as opposed to the real bag. The fakes have the zipper showing in the middle. The zipper is not supposed to be visible. The design on the fakes tend to overlap the waistband while the real ones do not. The waistband on the genuine ones are woven without visible defects. The fake camo prints are smaller than those found on the genuine ones. You can tell by the stitching and knitting found in the real ones. Look closely and you will see that the knitting starts at the neck and runs diagonally to the armpits. This does not apply to some other hooded sweatshirts such as the one color hooded sweatshirts like the shark and chompper jackets. The BAPE "General" (bape monkey logo) is always sewn onto the wrist of the hooded sweatshirt. The 100% Cotton material used to make counterfeit bape hooded sweatshirts is the same used to make the real hooded sweatshirts. The dye used in the fakes will run and fade with only one wash while the dye found on the genuine articles will not. However, counterfeiters have fallen short of producing quality BAPE denim jeans. They cannot replicate the selvedge edges and the denim is a cheap quality based on the same material used to produce Enyce, Rocawear and G-Unit jeans.

[edit] Anything to do with Gorillaz?

Does anyone know if the artist Nigo of A Bathing Ape has anything to do with the band Gorillaz? I have a book that claims he is the artist behind them, but I can't find anything to back this up. There are a few other discrepancies in the book so it's quite possible that this information is inaccurate, but i just want to know for sure. davekeeling 21:52, 8 March 2007 (UTC)

No... Nigo has absolutely nothing to do with the Gorillaz. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Drones (talk • contribs) 7:55, 10 March 2007 (UTC).
Ok, thanks davekeeling 14:14, 13 March 2007 (UTC)
Actually A Bathing Ape does have something to do with the Gorillaz. Lupe Fiasco's mixtape Fahrenheit 1/15 Part III: A Rhyming Ape features the Bape logo on its cover and the album's title is obviously a play on A Bathing Ape. The mixtape is made up of Lupe Fiasco rapping over the instrumental beats from the Gorillaz' Demon Days album. So yes, A Bathing Ape does have something to do with Gorillaz, but no, not directly related. - kollision 16:30, 23 August 2007 (UTC)

[edit] External Links

Please have a look at the guideline WP:EL#Advertising_and_conflicts_of_interest. It is not OK to keep adding links to the online store. Continuing to do so could eventually lead to the page being protected from anon edits which would be a shame. AntiVan 00:37, 26 March 2007 (UTC)

For my own information, are there any authorized links besides the single site, http://www.bape.com/? BapeMall looks somewhat official. -Will Beback · † · 09:29, 23 April 2007 (UTC)

Bapemall is NOT offical...there is no Offical Bape website that sells Bape. Dont put any related sites in links because your directing people to fake Bape Koala72 07:54, May 21 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Metropolis Magazine as a source

I think this article contains some serious inaccuracies. Look at [1]. Nigo states his parents were working most of the time, and his major influence as being toys. But the Metropolis article says he cites his parents and other people. Could someone look into this?

This is what Metropolis says: “I have a very meticulous personality, and maybe that's partly a Japanese trait,” he confesses, citing his mother and father, a nurse and a billboard sign-maker respectively, as major influences in the development of his character, and DJ/Head Porter designer Hiroshi Fujiwara, a generation older and one of Japan's earliest hip-hop jockeys, as his business model. (Nigo literally means “number two” in Japanese; a Harajuku shopkeeper coined the moniker when he noted the physical resemblance between the two designers 10 years ago.)
Perhaps you are confused about the text: His mother was a nurse and his father was a billboard sign-maker. For the purposes of Wikipedia, Metropolis is a reliable source. I have added some of the text from the source you found into the article to clarify. -- Sparkzilla talk! 04:59, 28 June 2007 (UTC)

[edit] References In Popular Cu--71.70.171.96 (talk) 18:48, 7 May 2008 (UTC)lture

There are problems with this section currently, but mostly I'm concerned that it is not needed at all. Can this be removed? I'm asking here because it has been restored several times now, thrice by the same editor for reasons that I consider political, rather than to benefit the article. / edg ☺ ★ 03:34, 12 October 2007 (UTC)

I'm the editor in question, and I explained my reasoning to Edgarde already on my talk page:
"I think the section should remain because it helps to establish the notability of the article's topic. If I otherwise came across that article I would dismiss it as a clothing brand no one ever heard of, but certain references in popular culture help to inform the reader that the subject is substantial. The reason for the previous removals were sources; the item restored now has a source -- although I would not be averse to it being integrated into another section rather than staying in its own list."
Yet, he still continues to make these accusations. Assume good faith, please.
Equazcion • argue/improves • 03:41, 10/12/2007
So as not to duplicate that entire conversation here, I'll just mention this article already has several sources establishing notability, including the New York Times style section. I don't think every subject that gets mentioned in song lyrics needs to have those songs appended to their article. / edg ☺ ★ 03:52, 12 October 2007 (UTC)
"Most of those articles are from Asian media, and don't establish notability for (or influence on, if you will) the English-speaking world that, primarily, makes up the reader base of the en Wikipedia." No one said "every subject that gets mentioned in song lyrics needs to have those songs appended to their article" -- in fact I told you the exact opposite on my talk page. This particular subject could use the help as far as letting English-speakers know that, "hey, this brand has gained interest in your culture".
Equazcion • argue/improves • 03:57, 10/12/2007
This isn't really a typical "in popular culture" case. The fact that rappers talk about BAPE is the only reason I've heard of them, and I think that's probably true of a lot of people.P4k 22:36, 19 October 2007 (UTC)
Recently a replica of the Bape diamond hoodie was seen on the Canadian program Jpod —Preceding unsigned comment added by Choker (talk • contribs) 02:28, 15 March 2008 (UTC)


[edit] Controversies, The Meaning of Bathing Ape

Ok, I think that a section needs to be added on what the brand represents. The Japanese meaning of Bathing Apes is a rich, spoiled person who is perfectly useless. I have a wikipedia account (User:Princess Janay), but I'm not logged in right now. So, when I log in, I want to take up the issue of adding in a controversies section.--71.70.171.96 (talk) 18:48, 7 May 2008 (UTC)